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Your "fear" is absolutely no basis for the rest of your argument. Gee, this could happen and that could happen. The "couda, shouda, wouda" stuf is just not a logical arguement for ANY discusion. Maybe COPD has affected your cognitive abilities. Rod Adams wrote: > I and my husband have watched for months as Ray got more and more > bitter and > argumentative on the whole stem cell issue. My husband is also a PD > patient, > I Love him dearly, but would never want the death of another to be of no > importance just so he could feel better. I myself have COPD among other > health problems, if they told me tomorrow that because of a child's > death I > could breathe easier the guilt would not be worth it. I know abortions > are > performed every day, my fear is if we establish a demand America being > the > country it is, we will most assuredly create a supply. I picture poverty > stricken women being paid to abort fetuses and harvest their fertilized > eggs. How much will the going rate be? It is always our poor that have to > use these shortcuts to make ends meet. > I find it unbelievable that you would use China as a example: with their > forced abortions, I suppose it is a good place to find a ready supply. > Even with testimonials of alternative procedures that may work you still > can't see the forest for the trees. If using your own stem cells has any > merit at all wouldn't that be more appealing than benefiting from a > death? I > realize another alternative would be to forcibly take other people's > stored > embryos, but if I forcibly took your car I would go to jail. How is > this any > different? > I think you should learn Mandarin and plan to move to China lets see what > kind of rights you would have there, with any luck you can join the > experiment, Lord knows they should have the supply for your demand. > We all want a cure I just believe God has a better way. I am so proud we > have a president that is willing to follow his conscience, his heart > and his > Lord. > No offense but you will be in our prayers. > Mr. and Mrs. Rod Adams and family. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:07 PM > Subject: Time to learn Mandarin > > >> I saw on TV today that in NY people were hiring Chinese "nannys" so >> their >> kids could learn Chinese. After seeing PBS program I started reading >> "1421 >> The Year China Discovered America". About 1424 with the death of the >> Emperor China turned inward and lost their maritime lead. Kind of >> like we >> are surrendering our lead in science today and much more in the past 5 >> years. Civilizations do not hold on to hegemony forever. I just copied >> about half of the article, concentrating on stem cell research. >> ray, MA History >> >> Blinding Science: China's Race to Innovate >> The country is making a move to be a leader in science, medicine, >> technology, R&D, and energy -- and the government is behind the charge >> Looking for the cutting edge of stem cell science? Instead of >> Stanford or >> Cambridge or Singapore, consider Shenzhen. That's where Chinese >> entrepreneur >> Sean Hu has set up one of the most radical businesses in the field. >> Hu is >> chairman of Beike Biotech, a joint venture involving the Shenzhen >> government, Peking University, and the Hong Kong University of >> Science and >> Technology. >> >> Launched last year, Beike specializes in stem cell treatments that >> doctors >> in the U.S. wouldn't dare to try experimentally, let alone commercially: >> taking stem cells from aborted fetuses and implanting them into patients >> with otherwise incurable diseases. >> >> In the U.S., simply using stem cells from embryos is controversial. >> That's >> not the case in China, where regulators are also far more permissive >> about >> experimental therapies than their U.S. counterparts. So far, Hu and his >> doctors have treated more than 100 patients suffering from autism, ALS >> (Lou >> Gehrig's disease), crippling strokes, and other severe problems. Now, Hu >> plans to make Beike a nationwide company with global reach. "We will be >> able >> to apply the most advanced stem cell technology and use our network to >> collaborate with foreign biotech companies," he says. >> >> IT'S A SCIENCE. Hu's ambitions -- and the regulations that allow him to >> operate -- indicate just how far China is going in its attempt to >> build a >> more modern, flexible economy. In Beijing, innovation is the buzzword. >> President Hu Jintao set the tone in January with his call for China to >> make >> the transition from a manufacturing-based economy to an innovation-based >> one. Innovation was a major theme at the recently concluded National >> People's Congress, with the government unveiling its latest five-year >> plan >> calling for big increases in spending to nurture innovation. >> >> China is targeting a broad range of sectors, including some >> controversial >> areas such as stem cells, gene therapy, and genetically modified crops; >> and >> some areas that the U.S. has long dominated, including software, >> semiconductors, and space exploration. And China aims to become a leader >> in >> emerging technologies such as renewable energy sources ranging from >> solar, >> hydro, and wind power to fuel cells. By 2050, China intends to >> surpass the >> U.S. and become the biggest player in the world of science. >> >> There are many reasons that Beijing wants to push the innovation agenda. >> One >> is national pride: As a great nation that was coming up with innovative >> breakthroughs when Europe was in the Dark Ages, China believes it should >> be >> a leader, not a follower. Another reason is national security. The >> Communist >> regime doesn't like being at the mercy of foreigners for key >> technologies. >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn