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Amen. Thanks for your message, Fred. Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Cobbett" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Questions re PD/Bible/Arnie > As an evangelical pastor, I wonder what those folks would say to me > regarding "reading the bible". I'm pretty understanding but I chalk up those > types of things as well as the ridiculous things people say at funerals to > ignorance and a willingness to speak from it. They can do a lot of harm. > There are also some who's theology lies in the "name it and claim it" camp > who feel all you need to overcome any malady is "enough faith" and so they > blame everything on the victim's lack of faith. They do far more damage. > Then there are those who believe sickness is a direct form of punishment for > a personal sin. They do a lot of damage as well. > > Many of the misunderstandings of the bible come from inadequate translation > and a blurring of the lines between metaphor and literal intent - it > contains both. It's certainly not a "read it once and get it" book. It > requires study and consultation with many wise people and then God leaves it > to us to seek Him for how He will speak to us through it. Once a person > discerns God's personality and character there is nothing but consistency in > the words. Now I'll shut up. There's been a lot of preaching on here in the > past that touched on PD only tangentially, served to offend many, offered no > constructive contribution to the issues or debate and that I found pretty > silly. I'll attempt to not go there. > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of rayilynlee > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:21 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Questions re PD/Bible/Arnie > > Arnie, thanks so much for the interesting explanations and helping to > educate me.. Another list member told me it had to do with keeping kosher, > among other things as well. I see what is meant now by the question "Which > version"? when the 10 Commandments in the courtroom controversy comes up. > > The male nipple thing is a real puzzle. Could it be because all fetuses are > initially female? Sure raises questions re the Adam's Rib story...I taught > Art History...always wondered why Adam and Eve( "born" or created as adults) > were depicted with belly buttons. I checked Spike out and he has no > nipples, was neutered at a young age. I always had female dogs until I got > him, so it is something I didn't look for. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arnie Kuzmack" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:11 AM > Subject: Re: Questions re PD and the Bible > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:18 PM > > Subject: Questions re PD and the Bible > > > > > >> Why in the lesser known (Exodus 34:26-28) of the 3 versions of the 10 > >> Commandments is there one prohibiting the cooking of a young goat in its > >> mother's milk? > > > > According to the traditional interpretation, the fact that this > > prohibition is > > repeated three times (Exodus 23:19, Exodus 34:26, Deuteronomy 14:21) > > implies > > that there is more than just the literal meaning intended. We derive the > > prohibition of mixing meat and dairy from the repetition. > > > > A modern interpretation would be that the whole chapter is emphasizing not > > being > > drawn into the religious practices of the surrounding peoples. The > > symbolism of > > this one is particularly cruel and jarring. > > > >> Why were 42 children killed in the name of God for calling a man "bald"(2 > >> Kings:2:23-24) > > > > The incident is not explained very well, but it seems clear that the > > children > > were not just giving a neutral anatomical description. They were taunting > > him, > > but it is not clear why or why Elisha reacted as strongly as he did, even > > though > > he was mourning his master, Elijah. > > > > In the Talmud, the Rabbis are obviously uncomfortable with the incident > > and > > attempt to justify it by saying that the children were not really children > > but > > young ruffians. They also say that the suffering of Elisha's final > > illness was > > punishment for it. > > > >> What does this have to do with Parkinson's disease and why am I told over > >> and > > over by Christians to read the Bible? I was told to do this by a woman in > > a > > restaurant last Sunday when she noted my disability and difficulty > > moving. > > > > There are two approaches: (1) They're jerks, so ignore them. (2) Give > > them > > the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant well and that they meant to > > say > > religion could help you to come to terms with the disease. There are > > certainly > > many examples in human experience of that happening. But they are still > > jerks > > since they don't know that just reading the Bible, starting with page 1, > > is not > > going to do it. > > > >> I have many, many more questions, like the several versions of Jesus' > >> lineage, > > but they can be answered off list. > > > > Sorry, that's not my field. But, in general, if you look for > > contradictions, > > that's what you'll find. > > > > Ray > > > >> for Intelligent Design advocates - why do men have nipples? Spike > >> doesn't. > > > > I am not an Intelligent Design advocate. Assuming Spike is your male > > dog -- my > > understanding is that male dogs do have nipples in nature, but they may > > not > > develop if it is spayed at a very young age. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn