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As an evangelical pastor, I wonder what those folks would say to me regarding "reading the bible". I'm pretty understanding but I chalk up those types of things as well as the ridiculous things people say at funerals to ignorance and a willingness to speak from it. They can do a lot of harm. There are also some who's theology lies in the "name it and claim it" camp who feel all you need to overcome any malady is "enough faith" and so they blame everything on the victim's lack of faith. They do far more damage. Then there are those who believe sickness is a direct form of punishment for a personal sin. They do a lot of damage as well. Many of the misunderstandings of the bible come from inadequate translation and a blurring of the lines between metaphor and literal intent - it contains both. It's certainly not a "read it once and get it" book. It requires study and consultation with many wise people and then God leaves it to us to seek Him for how He will speak to us through it. Once a person discerns God's personality and character there is nothing but consistency in the words. Now I'll shut up. There's been a lot of preaching on here in the past that touched on PD only tangentially, served to offend many, offered no constructive contribution to the issues or debate and that I found pretty silly. I'll attempt to not go there. Fred -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of rayilynlee Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:21 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Questions re PD/Bible/Arnie Arnie, thanks so much for the interesting explanations and helping to educate me.. Another list member told me it had to do with keeping kosher, among other things as well. I see what is meant now by the question "Which version"? when the 10 Commandments in the courtroom controversy comes up. The male nipple thing is a real puzzle. Could it be because all fetuses are initially female? Sure raises questions re the Adam's Rib story...I taught Art History...always wondered why Adam and Eve( "born" or created as adults) were depicted with belly buttons. I checked Spike out and he has no nipples, was neutered at a young age. I always had female dogs until I got him, so it is something I didn't look for. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnie Kuzmack" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 8:11 AM Subject: Re: Questions re PD and the Bible > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 1:18 PM > Subject: Questions re PD and the Bible > > >> Why in the lesser known (Exodus 34:26-28) of the 3 versions of the 10 >> Commandments is there one prohibiting the cooking of a young goat in its >> mother's milk? > > According to the traditional interpretation, the fact that this > prohibition is > repeated three times (Exodus 23:19, Exodus 34:26, Deuteronomy 14:21) > implies > that there is more than just the literal meaning intended. We derive the > prohibition of mixing meat and dairy from the repetition. > > A modern interpretation would be that the whole chapter is emphasizing not > being > drawn into the religious practices of the surrounding peoples. The > symbolism of > this one is particularly cruel and jarring. > >> Why were 42 children killed in the name of God for calling a man "bald"(2 >> Kings:2:23-24) > > The incident is not explained very well, but it seems clear that the > children > were not just giving a neutral anatomical description. They were taunting > him, > but it is not clear why or why Elisha reacted as strongly as he did, even > though > he was mourning his master, Elijah. > > In the Talmud, the Rabbis are obviously uncomfortable with the incident > and > attempt to justify it by saying that the children were not really children > but > young ruffians. They also say that the suffering of Elisha's final > illness was > punishment for it. > >> What does this have to do with Parkinson's disease and why am I told over >> and > over by Christians to read the Bible? I was told to do this by a woman in > a > restaurant last Sunday when she noted my disability and difficulty > moving. > > There are two approaches: (1) They're jerks, so ignore them. (2) Give > them > the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant well and that they meant to > say > religion could help you to come to terms with the disease. There are > certainly > many examples in human experience of that happening. But they are still > jerks > since they don't know that just reading the Bible, starting with page 1, > is not > going to do it. > >> I have many, many more questions, like the several versions of Jesus' >> lineage, > but they can be answered off list. > > Sorry, that's not my field. But, in general, if you look for > contradictions, > that's what you'll find. > > Ray > >> for Intelligent Design advocates - why do men have nipples? Spike >> doesn't. > > I am not an Intelligent Design advocate. Assuming Spike is your male > dog -- my > understanding is that male dogs do have nipples in nature, but they may > not > develop if it is spayed at a very young age. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn