I was going to suggest that it was time we revisited "Literature and Composition: the Troubled Connection", except that I thought that most Inkshedders (in practice at least, if not in theory) have moved beyond trying to maintain any connection at all. But perhaps Marcy's suggestion would cover it. (She wrote "I think the Alternative Discourses and Disciplinary Codes idea could incorporate the others, particularly if you added language that broadened the scope of discussion to include competing discourses within disciplines, or discourses that disrupt disciplines (which is what I think the podcasts and wikis and so forth do).") Composition/rhetoric is still often understood as a competing or disruptive discourse within the English Department -- in those places where it maintains any connection with such departments at all. And from where I sit and from what I see, it's still a relevant issue -- and certainly one I can get worked up about more easily than podcasts and wikis and all those other no doubt interesting things. Looking forward to London, all being well. Susan Susan Drain, PhD Department of English Mount Saint Vincent University Halifax, NS Canada B3M 2J6 902 457 6220 [log in to unmask] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-