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Hi, Ray. I must say you're being quite generous and kind to this dentist. I'm so sorry you had to go through this! Apparently, he has a touch of a mack truck. He reminds me of a dentist who, I believe, is a bit sadistic. He was filling in for my own dentist who was away, but I had an small emergency. I told him that my teeth were/are extremely sensitive, because that's where all my nervous tension comes out. TMJ "R" Us. He said that I'd have no problem with the procedure, but I almost bit his hand, the pain was so nasty. He didn't even use any Novacaine! When I yelled that he better not touch me again, he finally relented and gave me the shots. It took 4 shots of Novacaine to deaden the "painless" procedure. What a shnook he was. Turns out, he's the son of the dentist who owns the (mega) practice. Everyone cow-tows to him. Not I, thank you. That was the last time he ever saw me, for sure. I later told my original dentist of the experience, and apparently he was "talked to"...yeah, right. This guy has no business being in a position to hurt anyone. As to the blood clot: my mother had a HUGE hematoma on her elbow while in the hospital. Her entire arm was darker than black-and-blue. She was given moist heat packs to help dissolve the clot. The doctors told her that it would go away in a week, but it was so painful that she needed the heat packs. They were very comforting. Has anyone suggested any treatment to you? Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Dentists//PD/DBS/David > David, thanks for your concern. Tooth popped out easily after he scared > me > about how difficult it might be to extract. However, he really hurt me > with the novocain injections, creating a huge hematoma. I look like I've > been beaten up by Sean Hannity or Bill O'Reilly, have big purple bruise on > right side of face. I am usually pretty lucky with dental procedures, but > having PD makes everything harder, being unable to talk to explain > DBS/dental precautions, etc., he must have been in a hurry. The > endodontist > (he verified the tooth that was the culprit) was really nice that I saw > Thursday and a friend of his had had successful DBS for dystonia. My > CG/helper is a wonderful person, but is not too sophisticated re medical > matters and it is very frustrating as she has a hearing problem and I a > speaking one. I'm hoping the blood clot will gradually dissolve. My Mom > also had one when neurosurgeon missed nerve and hit blood vessel near > nerve/hole to brain during surgery for trigeminal neuralgia. It took a > year > to go away. > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "DAVID LEWIN" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:55 AM > Subject: Re: ILLINOIS SUPPORTs ESCRBev > > >> Dear Ray, >> "Is it safe?" Here's hoping that you don't have Dr. Mengele for a >> dentist. >> Good luck with your procedure. And let's hope that that lovely gadfly >> brain >> of yours doesn't get zapped. We need your passionate intelligence. >> David >> >> >>>From: rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: ILLINOIS SUPPORTs ESCRBev >>>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:07:10 -0700 >>> >>>Bev >>> >>>This is what I have been saying. Jehovah's Witnesses don't prevent me >>>from >>>getting a blood transfusion and Christian Scientists don't keep me from >>>seeing a doctor. But because of Bush and his "religious right" base we >>>must >>>struggle and fight them as well as PD. They are crafty, well-organized >>>and >>>dedicated to stalling research. A few actually suffer from disease and >>>disability and they have managed to make the "choice" for all of us. >>>Prop >>>71 passed in CA over 2 years ago. We are now fighting state by state, >>>winning some, losing others while research goes on elsewhere. This is >>>good, >>>but not everyone is physically and financially able to travel abroad for >>>help. >>>It is difficult to express how outraged I am that we are even discussing >>>this. It is especially bad for me today as I am suffering from 2 raging >>>toothaches while worrying about the effect the dentist's drill may have >>>on >>>my neurotransmitter implants or whether the teeth can just be extracted. >>>If >>>my brain does not get "fried" today I will continue to fight as long as I >>>can. >>>In my opinion more people need to get on a soap box, not less, Ray >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Beverly Bashe" <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:41 AM >>>Subject: Re: ILLINOIS JOINS STATES SUPPORTING ESCR >>> >>> >>>>I don't know about you, but I'm getting so sick of these moralizing >>>>people >>>>trying to tell me (and mine) what I can or cannot do as long as I'm not >>>>harming another person. Who are they to say whether or not my husband >>>>can >>>>have a chance at life? Or, heaven forbid, my children---in case that PD >>>>is >>>>a hereditary disease. I don't believe that a religious leader or some >>>>holier-than-thou group has the right to inhibit research that can repair >>>>a >>>>life. If stem cell research can hold the cure for many neurological >>>>diseases, then go for it...especially if the stem cells are not killing >>>>another human (read "fetus"). If these stem cells are to be put in the >>>>garbage, or if they're manufactured another way, I cannot conceive of a >>>>greater waste than for them not to be used to better humankind. >>>> >>>>I understand that lots of people have negative opinions about the use of >>>>the >>>>above.... To them, I say, "Then don't use the meds that develop from >>>>these >>>>experiments if you or yours should become ill...and these meds are >>>>recommended to you on the chance they might cure you." In the meantime, >>>>don't interfere with the millions of people who stand to gain from this >>>>research. It's truly NOT YOUR BUSINESS. >>>> >>>>OK...I'll get off my soap box now. >>>> >>>>Bev >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:31 PM >>>>Subject: ILLINOIS JOINS STATES SUPPORTING ESCR >>>> >>>> >>>>>Illinois became the first Midwestern state to use taxpayer dollars for >>>>>stem >>>>>cell research Monday when Gov. Rod Blagojevich awarded $10 million in >>>>>grants >>>>>to a group of Chicago scientists. Their work will include embryonic >>>>>stem >>>>>cell research. >>>>> >>>>>A few other states, including California, Connecticut and New Jersey, >>>>>have >>>>>spent taxpayer dollars on the research since President George W. Bush >>>>>in >>>>>2001 forbade the use of federal funding for embryonic stem cell >>>>>research. >>>>>Supporters say the science could produce near-miraculous cures for the >>>>>worst >>>>>diseases, but opponents respond that it is morally wrong to try to >>>>>derive >>>>>medical treatments from some human cells. >>>>> >>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>>>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>>> >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>>mailto:[log in to unmask] >>>In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn