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Hi David. I think the pushing you over was an attempt to check your balance, they do that - I hope the doc had the good manners to catch you ! Know what you mean about being a psychologist - my cousin's a police-inspector and people get very strange at parties when she tells them what she does for a living. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn