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Don, could it be you meant Queen Victoria, not either Queen Elizabeth in your recent post about the Catholic church's threat of excommunication to stem cell researchers and patients? Voters?? Elizabeth I the "virgin queen" had no kids; II had 4. Great discussion of religion and SCR. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn Ray