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The attempt to override Bush's veto of HR 810 fails 235-193. I always liked to study and teach about the Dark Ages - so romantic - but I never thought I'd be living in them in the 21st century. It is just a reminder that progress is never assured even though most Americans are heirs of a "revolution of rising expectations" engendered ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn by the Enlightenment. Ray