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Due to our discussion of Guy Fawkes I just watched "V for Vendetta". This week, quietly and with no fanfare, habeous corpus was ditched and the "Decider" will decide what torture is. I recommend this movie to everyone - watch it from beginning to end. Helps put PD as a problem in perspective. Let's hope that V's claim at end of film that "ideas are bulletproof" is true. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn Ray