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"The abortion of a fetus is problematic; therapeutic cloning is not." This is a statement I made that a friend of mine and I found in the PIEN archives wherein I state over and over again that I have never encouraged anyone to have an abortion, but don't like folks confusing abortion with ESCR. There are also some discussions I had with people who were explaining the Jewish position on abortion with me. One thing that is great about emailing is that there is a record. If anyone wants to follow these ridiculous accusations go to the archives. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:27 AM Subject: Re: Cells are not people > Oh, yes I do. You shared them with this list once. Remember, Ray, I've > been > here a long time. > ------- > Mary Ann > www.bentwillowfarm.org > Subject: Re: Cells are not people > > >> Mary Ann, you have no idea what my opinions on abortion are. >> Ray >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:13 AM >> Subject: Re: Cells are not people >> >> >>> Ray, the major premise that formulates the logic for both of us on this >>> issue is different. >>> >>> You think that abortion is Ok. I don't. So.....the syllogism goes >>> something >>> like this: >>> >>> Ray: >>> Aborting a fetus is OK >>> Embryos are the first stage of fetal development >>> Therefore, destroying embryos is OK. >>> >>> Me: >>> Aborting a fetus is not OK >>> Embryos are the first stage of fetal development >>> Therefore, destroying embryos is not OK >>> >>> Pro-choice folks will *never* understand why pro-life folks have taken a >>> stand on this issue and vice versa. We are oceans apart. >>> >>> I stood on the fence on this issue until I read TIME magazine's report >>> on >>> stem cell research that stated, "Extracting knowledge from embryos that >>> would otherwise be wasted is one thing, but scientists admit that moving >>> forward would require a much larger supply of fresh, healthy embryos >>> than >>> fertility clinics could ever provide." (TIME, Aug. 7, 2006) >>> >>> That single statement pulled me off the fence. >>> ------------ >>> Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD) >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.13/463 - Release Date: >>> 10/4/2006 >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.13.0/465 - Release Date: 10/6/2006 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn