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Erv Morales rings a bell, but I can't retrieve any data from my brain on him/her. you got me! Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ervin McCarthy" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe > Ray: > > Do you have any knowledge of doctors RADAR or MORALES who are > administering > stem cell shots? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "rayilynlee" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe > > >> Scott: >> Lanza was the researcher who did the gene biopsy type study that showed >> that >> one cell could be taken without destroying the blastocyst. His work >> became >> the subject of much argument. >> >> I think what he meant was that space and time is how we experience >> consciousness. Certainly before we were born or existed we experienced >> neither. I think his idea that all living creatures are bound by >> themselves >> is a good one. For example, it is difficult especially with respect to >> religion to escape anthropomorphism whether you are a believer or not. >> I'm >> guessing my dog Spike does not see the issue in the same way I do. We >> are >> both restricted by who and what we are. >> >> I only posted this because Lanza is a stem cell researcher and I thought >> his >> ideas were interesting. >> Ray >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott E. Antes" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:44 AM >> Subject: Re: "Biocentric" theory of universe >> >> >>>I wanted to say something earlier, but too many students this semester! >>>I'm >>> not sure what this has to do with PD, but: I do not know Dr. Lanza, nor >>> have I >>> read his work, so I am going strictly by the interview posted on this >>> list. >>> This is not--by any stretch of the imagination--a biocentric universe. >>> Biology is a relative latecomer to the big picture. Plus, of all matter >>> that >>> exists in our universe, biology makes up only a tiny fraction. Most of >>> the >>> universe is void of life, and--as best we know--always has been. >>> >>> If Dr. Lanza is saying that we humans basically construct and >>> reconstruct >>> our >>> universe (actually, our *notion* of the universe) as we gain more >>> knowledge >>> and understanding of it--and as previous notions get pushed aside, then >>> all of >>> us in the scientific community would agree. It's all a matter of >>> operating >>> under the current paradigm (either social or scientific). >>> >>> Time and space. Time and space and life are about the only three >>> absolute >>> truths in existence. The devout Buddhist might say that even these are >>> simply >>> illusion. Thus, humans define these terms in all sorts of cultural >>> ways. >>> Whether illusion or truth, we practical people have to recognize that we >>> work >>> within their infinite borders. Infinite for time and space, that is. >>> Not >>> for >>> life. Life begins and ends, whereas time and space do not. A >>> biocentric >>> universe? Hardly. >>> >>> Scott Antes >>> >>>>===== Original Message From Parkinson's Information Exchange Network >>> <[log in to unmask]> ===== >>>>I think Dr. Lanza is one smart guy. I never did believe "time" was >>>>real. >>>>Ray >>> >>> Scott E. Antes >>> Department of Anthropology >>> Northern Arizona University >>> Flagstaff, AZ 86011-5200 >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.12/724 - Release Date: >> 3/16/2007 >> 12:12 PM >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn