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Subject: Re: Plagiarism discussed in the NCTE Newsletter
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 15:06:39 -0600
From: Jo-Anne Andre <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Natasha,
I agree with your point entirely. However, it seems to me that
sometimes in our discussions on the CASLL list, the two kinds of
plagiarism (inadvertent plagiarism vs calculated cheating) get conflated
in our discussions.
Jo-Anne
Natasha Artemeva wrote:
> Hi Jo-Anne,
>
> I don't think academic integrity and plagiarism are one and the same.
> I think the case that Rob described causes a real concern, but as long
> as we as teachers direct students to writing about things that matter
> to them and facilitate their learning of academic genres, there is no
> big deal if they use a quote without a proper APA attribution. Just my
> personal opinion.
>
> Of course, when a student submits somebody else's work as her own or
> does what my students did (copies whole sections verbatim from the
> teacher's article), it's a different matter.
>
> Natasha
>
> Jo-Anne Andre wrote:
>
>> Just to be a devil's advocate, what if you had asked, "Why are we so
>> obsessed with academic integrity?"
>>
>> Jo-Anne Andre
>>
>>
>>
>> Natasha Artemeva wrote:
>>
>>> I was reading a modern Russian novel the other day, and in the
>>> foreword the editor was saying that in this novel a reader would
>>> find hidden
>>> quotes from various famous Russian authors whose names were then
>>> listed. I am sure any of us can provide multiple examples
>>> of "borrowing" from other authors in literature, music, film, even
>>> in academic papers. Why are we so obsessed with student plagiarism?
>>>
>>> Natasha
>>
>>
>
>
>
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