The Inkshed Listserv on Voice (a selection) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 10:07:24 MST From: Doug Brent <[log in to unmask]> Subject: "Voice" I'm trying to put my finger on some of the literature that's come out since the 70's on authorial "voice." In particular I'm interested in specific material on how a writer manages voice in a text, what it means to have an authentic voice etc. A lot of this grows out of the expressivist school, but the concentration of "voice" as a root metaphor then seems to me to go underground. The metaphor shifts from voice to rhetorical situation, audience etc. The emphasis on persona as "speaker" gets a bit fuzzy. Any suggestions on where the idea of writer as metaphorical "speaker" crops up in later literature? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 1995 15:00:20 EST From: Graham Smart <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: "Voice" Doug, One idea that comes to mind re your question of what happens to the individual speaker and persona in a social theory of writing: Bakhtin posits the notion of individuals interacting with (negotiating, reinventing, putting their own spin on) a society's existing genres. Here the individual does appear to retain a certain autonomy: there's a reciprocity between individual intention and expression, on the one hand, and conventionalized social uses of language, on the other. Graham Smart Date: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 12:26 PM -0400 From: Rob Irish <[log in to unmask]> To: Marcy Bauman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Authentic writing Marcy: One distinction Bakhtin makes . . . is between the authoritative voice and the internally persuasive one. He puts it this way (_p.342 in the Dialogic Imagination_): "Both the authority of discourse and its internal persuasiveness may be united in a single word -- one that is simultaneously authoritative and internally persuasive -- despite the profound differences between these two categories of alien discourse. But such unity is rarely given -- it happens more frequently that an individual's become, an ideological process, is characterized by a sharp gap between these two categories: in one the authoritative word (religious, political, moral, the word of a father, of adults and of teachers etc.) that does not know internal persuasiveness, in the other the internally persuasive word that is denied all privilege, backed up by no authority at all, and is frequently not even acknowledged in society. . . . The struggle and dialogic interrelationships of these categories of ideological discourse are what usually determin the history of an individual ideological consciousness." . . . Bringing this back to our students and the discussion of various writing, I think that it is only when the two voices come together that students can be confident in their success. . . . Anyway, if we see our students as working dialogically to reconcile these two voices, then we can respond differently. We can respond not so much as gatekeepers as perhaps the welcome wagon, or at least the information centre. . . . Robert Irish, Director Language Across the Curriculum Applied Science and Engineering, U of Toronto Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:50:28 -0400 From: Theresa Hyland <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: query re: voice Hi Rick! There is a nice exploration of voice and identity in moving from one language to another in the whole section of Eva Karpinski's book "Pens of Many Colours" entitled "Self and Other: Language" I particularly like Eva Hoffman's piece entitled "Lost in Translation" where she talks about the voice that she adopts in writing in English (including the topics she chooses to write about) as an immigrant learning English and abandoning her native language, Polish. In "Background Readings for the Bedford Handbook"Gloria Anzaldua's "How to Tame a Wild Tongue" also explores voice in another language. Hope this helps, and I look forward to your talk, Rick! Theresa Hyland Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 07:50:57 -0700 From: wendy strachan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: query re: voice On voice - I found Darsie Bowden's challenge of the concept very useful and for me persuasive since I resist the notion when it implies the discovery of something essential in the self. Mythology of Voice. Wendy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-