Hi all I think it would be great if we could have a "host of signatures." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Sargent" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:21 PM Subject: Re: our joint piece > Susan, I want to join everyone else in thanking you for drafting this > piece. I think the tone is excellent. I was wondering if it would make > sense to have not just CASLL/Inkshed members signing it, but CATTW as > well? (there's so much overlap between the two--and it gives us a chance, > as Anthony mentioned, of highlighting the professional organizations that > exist in the field). I'm not sure of the logistics involved in signing > such a piece, but I'd certainly be honored to have my name associated with > it, as a member of either organization. > > If you're still working on a revision, I thought perhaps Tosh's point of > agreement with Marche ("Greater TA training and support are needed") might > be worth highlighting. And also you might emphasize what you mentioned in > your earlier email about WHIIPS--that "Write Here in Plain Sight is Sunny > Marche's response to his observation that much learning is tacit . . . ." > Because so much of the rich resevoir of knowledge faculty have about > writing in their own disciplines is tacit, TAs are not the only ones who > need some training and help figuring out how to integrate more writing > productively into upper-level courses. As Shurli mentioned, scholars in > Writing Studies research disciplinary discourses and thus can help other > faculty come to more explicit understandings about what it is they do when > they write in their own fields--which in turn helps them make their tacit > expectations clearer to students (it's hard for students to learn all they > need to know about writing in a particular field through observation > alone--for one thing, since Marche is one of the few faculty to compose in > public, students won't get many chances to observe writing in progress!). > > I like the tact of your piece as it stands now, but I'm also remembering > how Wendy S. described working with faculty at SFU--what she described > seemed like the best sort of collaboration between colleagues who shared > their different areas of expertise to mutual advantage (the faculty in > other disciplines would show her samples of what they considered excellent > work in the field, from senior scholars as well as from novices/students, > and together she and the faculty member would do a discourse analysis that > would help them articulate for students what the defining characteristics > of excellence were in that community of discourse and what was expected > for particular assignments). > > Sorry--I know all of this is obvious to Inkshed and CATTW folks--I'm just > trying to think here of a way to acknowledge the expertise Shurli brought > up while also acknowledging how much those of us in Writing Studies need > (and need constantly to acknowledge) the expertise of faculty in other > fields in order to help WAC initiatives work well. Unlike Shurli, I don't > have specific words to suggest--but maybe there's a way to use Marche's > own idea about the tacit to strike this balance (that is, even with > training TAs who will be assigned to WAC courses, it's often a matter of > helping them make explicit moves they already make tacitly in their own > disciplinary writing). > > Thanks again for taking this on. Best, Betsy > > At 09:53 AM 3/22/2008, you wrote: >>Thanks everyone for the comments so far and for the wiki editing. >>I wanted to get some feedback before I tried to finish it, and this has >>been very helpful. Let me absorb and get back to you. >> >>Cheers (and to those to whom it applies, Happy Easter!) >> >>Susan >> >> >>Susan Drain, PhD >>Department of English >>Mount Saint Vincent University >>Halifax, NS Canada B3M 2J6 >>902 457 6220 >>[log in to unmask] >> >> >>This communication, including any attached documentation, is intended only >>for the person or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain >>confidential, personal, and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized >>disclosure, copying, or taking action on the contents is strictly >>prohibited. 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