That makes very good sense to me as well.
And I'll add my thanks to Susan to those already expressed.
Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine F. Schryer" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: our joint piece
> This solution would work for me.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amanda Goldrick-Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: our joint piece
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> How about a closing sentence saying that various members of CASLL and
>> CATTW
>> collaborated on this piece, and then have the executive members or
>> presidents of CASLL and CATTW as signatories.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Amanda
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:41 AM, wendy strachan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with Margaret - willing as I originally was to join it, I began
>>> wondering what we intend to accomplish with a list of signatures.
>>> Perhaps
>>> reference could be made to the collaborative drafting process as a way
>>> of
>>> indicating that this is indeed a piece that represents the constituency.
>>> Marche's piece gave us an opportunity to sustain a little attention to
>>> writing in a vehicle that reaches many colleagues which is clearly all
>>> to
>>> the good. A list of signatures could seem defensive?
>>>
>>> Wendy
>>>
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>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CASLL/Inkshed [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Margaret
>>> Procter
>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:31 AM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: our joint piece
>>>
>>> I'm very happy to have Susan writing our response, and to see such good
>>> input from others. But it isn't a petition we're sending. Having a
>>> single signature and a reference to the two professional organizations
>>> would sound calmer and more confident.
>>> -- Margaret
>>>
>>>
>>> Catherine F. Schryer wrote:
>>> > Hi all
>>> > I think it would be great if we could have a "host of signatures."
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Sargent"
>>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:21 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: our joint piece
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> Susan, I want to join everyone else in thanking you for drafting this
>>> >> piece. I think the tone is excellent. I was wondering if it would
>>> >> make sense to have not just CASLL/Inkshed members signing it, but
>>> >> CATTW as well? (there's so much overlap between the two--and it gives
>>> >> us a chance, as Anthony mentioned, of highlighting the professional
>>> >> organizations that exist in the field). I'm not sure of the
>>> >> logistics involved in signing such a piece, but I'd certainly be
>>> >> honored to have my name associated with it, as a member of either
>>> >> organization.
>>> >>
>>> >> If you're still working on a revision, I thought perhaps Tosh's point
>>> >> of agreement with Marche ("Greater TA training and support are
>>> >> needed") might be worth highlighting. And also you might emphasize
>>> >> what you mentioned in your earlier email about WHIIPS--that "Write
>>> >> Here in Plain Sight is Sunny Marche's response to his observation
>>> >> that much learning is tacit . . . ." Because so much of the rich
>>> >> resevoir of knowledge faculty have about writing in their own
>>> >> disciplines is tacit, TAs are not the only ones who need some
>>> >> training and help figuring out how to integrate more writing
>>> >> productively into upper-level courses. As Shurli mentioned, scholars
>>> >> in Writing Studies research disciplinary discourses and thus can help
>>> >> other faculty come to more explicit understandings about what it is
>>> >> they do when they write in their own fields--which in turn helps them
>>> >> make their tacit expectations clearer to students (it's hard for
>>> >> students to learn all they need to know about writing in a particular
>>> >> field through observation alone--for one thing, since Marche is one
>>> >> of the few faculty to compose in public, students won't get many
>>> >> chances to observe writing in progress!).
>>> >>
>>> >> I like the tact of your piece as it stands now, but I'm also
>>> >> remembering how Wendy S. described working with faculty at SFU--what
>>> >> she described seemed like the best sort of collaboration between
>>> >> colleagues who shared their different areas of expertise to mutual
>>> >> advantage (the faculty in other disciplines would show her samples of
>>> >> what they considered excellent work in the field, from senior
>>> >> scholars as well as from novices/students, and together she and the
>>> >> faculty member would do a discourse analysis that would help them
>>> >> articulate for students what the defining characteristics of
>>> >> excellence were in that community of discourse and what was expected
>>> >> for particular assignments).
>>> >>
>>> >> Sorry--I know all of this is obvious to Inkshed and CATTW folks--I'm
>>> >> just trying to think here of a way to acknowledge the expertise
>>> >> Shurli brought up while also acknowledging how much those of us in
>>> >> Writing Studies need (and need constantly to acknowledge) the
>>> >> expertise of faculty in other fields in order to help WAC initiatives
>>> >> work well. Unlike Shurli, I don't have specific words to suggest--but
>>> >> maybe there's a way to use Marche's own idea about the tacit to
>>> >> strike this balance (that is, even with training TAs who will be
>>> >> assigned to WAC courses, it's often a matter of helping them make
>>> >> explicit moves they already make tacitly in their own disciplinary
>>> >> writing).
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks again for taking this on. Best, Betsy
>>> >>
>>> >> At 09:53 AM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
>>> >>> Thanks everyone for the comments so far and for the wiki editing.
>>> >>> I wanted to get some feedback before I tried to finish it, and this
>>> >>> has been very helpful. Let me absorb and get back to you.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Cheers (and to those to whom it applies, Happy Easter!)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Susan
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
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