Hi everyone:
I want to thank Susan as well for the excellent and quick work! I also
agree with Cathy that many signatures would be effective.
Patricia
Quoting "Catherine F. Schryer" <[log in to unmask]>:
> Hi all
> I think it would be great if we could have a "host of signatures."
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Sargent"
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> Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: our joint piece
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>
>> Susan, I want to join everyone else in thanking you for drafting
>> this piece. I think the tone is excellent. I was wondering if it
>> would make sense to have not just CASLL/Inkshed members signing it,
>> but CATTW as well? (there's so much overlap between the two--and
>> it gives us a chance, as Anthony mentioned, of highlighting the
>> professional organizations that exist in the field). I'm not sure
>> of the logistics involved in signing such a piece, but I'd
>> certainly be honored to have my name associated with it, as a
>> member of either organization.
>>
>> If you're still working on a revision, I thought perhaps Tosh's
>> point of agreement with Marche ("Greater TA training and support
>> are needed") might be worth highlighting. And also you might
>> emphasize what you mentioned in your earlier email about
>> WHIIPS--that "Write Here in Plain Sight is Sunny Marche's response
>> to his observation that much learning is tacit . . . ." Because so
>> much of the rich resevoir of knowledge faculty have about writing
>> in their own disciplines is tacit, TAs are not the only ones who
>> need some training and help figuring out how to integrate more
>> writing productively into upper-level courses. As Shurli
>> mentioned, scholars in Writing Studies research disciplinary
>> discourses and thus can help other faculty come to more explicit
>> understandings about what it is they do when they write in their
>> own fields--which in turn helps them make their tacit expectations
>> clearer to students (it's hard for students to learn all they need
>> to know about writing in a particular field through observation
>> alone--for one thing, since Marche is one of the few faculty to
>> compose in public, students won't get many chances to observe
>> writing in progress!).
>>
>> I like the tact of your piece as it stands now, but I'm also
>> remembering how Wendy S. described working with faculty at
>> SFU--what she described seemed like the best sort of collaboration
>> between colleagues who shared their different areas of expertise to
>> mutual advantage (the faculty in other disciplines would show her
>> samples of what they considered excellent work in the field, from
>> senior scholars as well as from novices/students, and together she
>> and the faculty member would do a discourse analysis that would
>> help them articulate for students what the defining characteristics
>> of excellence were in that community of discourse and what was
>> expected for particular assignments).
>>
>> Sorry--I know all of this is obvious to Inkshed and CATTW
>> folks--I'm just trying to think here of a way to acknowledge the
>> expertise Shurli brought up while also acknowledging how much those
>> of us in Writing Studies need (and need constantly to acknowledge)
>> the expertise of faculty in other fields in order to help WAC
>> initiatives work well. Unlike Shurli, I don't have specific words
>> to suggest--but maybe there's a way to use Marche's own idea about
>> the tacit to strike this balance (that is, even with training TAs
>> who will be assigned to WAC courses, it's often a matter of helping
>> them make explicit moves they already make tacitly in their own
>> disciplinary writing).
>>
>> Thanks again for taking this on. Best, Betsy
>>
>> At 09:53 AM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
>>> Thanks everyone for the comments so far and for the wiki editing.
>>> I wanted to get some feedback before I tried to finish it, and
>>> this has been very helpful. Let me absorb and get back to you.
>>>
>>> Cheers (and to those to whom it applies, Happy Easter!)
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
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