I agree that we don't want to sound defensive (or offensive for that
matter). The only advantage of multiple signatures from different
universities would be that it might indicate to non-Writing Studies
colleagues that Writing Studies actually exists on their own campuses. I
think some representation by the national organizations might serve that
purpose though without the local precision.
Rob Irish
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This solution would work for me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amanda Goldrick-Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: our joint piece
> Hi all,
>
> How about a closing sentence saying that various members of CASLL and
> CATTW
> collaborated on this piece, and then have the executive members or
> presidents of CASLL and CATTW as signatories.
>
> Cheers,
> Amanda
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:41 AM, wendy strachan <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Margaret - willing as I originally was to join it, I
>> began wondering what we intend to accomplish with a list of
>> signatures. Perhaps reference could be made to the collaborative
>> drafting process as a way of indicating that this is indeed a piece
>> that represents the constituency. Marche's piece gave us an
>> opportunity to sustain a little attention to writing in a vehicle
>> that reaches many colleagues which is clearly all to the good. A list
>> of signatures could seem defensive?
>>
>> Wendy
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: CASLL/Inkshed [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>> Margaret Procter
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:31 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: our joint piece
>>
>> I'm very happy to have Susan writing our response, and to see such
>> good input from others. But it isn't a petition we're sending. Having
>> a single signature and a reference to the two professional
>> organizations would sound calmer and more confident.
>> -- Margaret
>>
>>
>> Catherine F. Schryer wrote:
>> > Hi all
>> > I think it would be great if we could have a "host of signatures."
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betsy Sargent"
>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 8:21 PM
>> > Subject: Re: our joint piece
>> >
>> >
>> >> Susan, I want to join everyone else in thanking you for drafting
>> >> this piece. I think the tone is excellent. I was wondering if it
>> >> would make sense to have not just CASLL/Inkshed members signing
>> >> it, but CATTW as well? (there's so much overlap between the
>> >> two--and it gives us a chance, as Anthony mentioned, of
>> >> highlighting the professional organizations that exist in the
>> >> field). I'm not sure of the logistics involved in signing such a
>> >> piece, but I'd certainly be honored to have my name associated
>> >> with it, as a member of either organization.
>> >>
>> >> If you're still working on a revision, I thought perhaps Tosh's
>> >> point of agreement with Marche ("Greater TA training and support
>> >> are
>> >> needed") might be worth highlighting. And also you might emphasize
>> >> what you mentioned in your earlier email about WHIIPS--that "Write
>> >> Here in Plain Sight is Sunny Marche's response to his observation
>> >> that much learning is tacit . . . ." Because so much of the rich
>> >> resevoir of knowledge faculty have about writing in their own
>> >> disciplines is tacit, TAs are not the only ones who need some
>> >> training and help figuring out how to integrate more writing
>> >> productively into upper-level courses. As Shurli mentioned, scholars
>> >> in Writing Studies research disciplinary discourses and thus can help
>> >> other faculty come to more explicit understandings about what it is
>> >> they do when they write in their own fields--which in turn helps them
>> >> make their tacit expectations clearer to students (it's hard for
>> >> students to learn all they need to know about writing in a particular
>> >> field through observation alone--for one thing, since Marche is one
>> >> of the few faculty to compose in public, students won't get many
>> >> chances to observe writing in progress!).
>> >>
>> >> I like the tact of your piece as it stands now, but I'm also
>> >> remembering how Wendy S. described working with faculty at
>> >> SFU--what she described seemed like the best sort of collaboration
>> >> between colleagues who shared their different areas of expertise
>> >> to mutual advantage (the faculty in other disciplines would show
>> >> her samples of what they considered excellent work in the field,
>> >> from senior scholars as well as from novices/students, and
>> >> together she and the faculty member would do a discourse analysis
>> >> that would help them articulate for students what the defining
>> >> characteristics of excellence were in that community of discourse
>> >> and what was expected for particular assignments).
>> >>
>> >> Sorry--I know all of this is obvious to Inkshed and CATTW
>> >> folks--I'm just trying to think here of a way to acknowledge the
>> >> expertise Shurli brought up while also acknowledging how much
>> >> those of us in Writing Studies need (and need constantly to
>> >> acknowledge) the expertise of faculty in other fields in order to
>> >> help WAC initiatives work well. Unlike Shurli, I don't have
>> >> specific words to suggest--but maybe there's a way to use Marche's
>> >> own idea about the tacit to strike this balance (that is, even
>> >> with training TAs who will be assigned to WAC courses, it's often
>> >> a matter of helping them make explicit moves they already make
>> >> tacitly in their own disciplinary writing).
>> >>
>> >> Thanks again for taking this on. Best, Betsy
>> >>
>> >> At 09:53 AM 3/22/2008, you wrote:
>> >>> Thanks everyone for the comments so far and for the wiki editing.
>> >>> I wanted to get some feedback before I tried to finish it, and
>> >>> this has been very helpful. Let me absorb and get back to you.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers (and to those to whom it applies, Happy Easter!)
>> >>>
>> >>> Susan
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