Hello all, Listserv software doesn't do knowledge-sharing very well. How about creating a wiki page (like the one Susan used for the teaching- writing letter) so Tania, Graham, and any of us can share and add to this fascinating conversation about attitudes to rhetoric? Cheers, Amanda On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Graham Smart <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Tania and all, > > I'm having no success at all posting a message containing David Beard's > table, "Definitions of Rhetoric," to the listserv. The message keeps > bouncing back because it's over the word limit. However, I would be happy > to send the table to anyone who e-mails me individually off-list. > > Graham > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Graham Smart > To: CASLL/Inkshed > Cc: [log in to unmask] ; [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:56 PM > Subject: Re: The word "Rhetoric" on the internet > > > Tania and all, > > Thanks, Tania, that's a great resource for conversations on "rhetoric." > In particular, I really liked the piece by Jennifer MacLennan, "The Scope > and Nature of Rhetoric." > > I can add two items to complement those on your web page: > > One is remarkable cataloguing of meanings associated with the term > "rhetoric": a table labeled "Definitions of Rhetoric," put together by > David Beard (Rhetoric, Scientific and Technical Communication - Department > of Composition - University of Minnesota-Duluth). I'll have to send David's > table in a second e-mail, since copying it into this message makes the > message too long to make it through to the CASLL listserv (I've tried). > > By way of according due credit, when I asked David, in an e-mail, about > sharing the piece with colleagues and about proper credit, he replied: "I > compiled them from the lists provided by Ed Schiappa, David Gore, and Cesar > Ornatowski, I think. So you should probably cite them, I guess, at best > compiled by me, with a James Berlin definition and a Krista Ratcliffe > definition as my humble contribution. -- David." > > The second item is another remarkable text produced by James Kinney of the > University of Arizona, "Book of Quotations on Rhetoric," and available on > his website. Here's a link to the text: > www.u.arizona.edu/~tkinney/pdf/handouts/definitions.pdf<http://www.u.arizona.edu/%7Etkinney/pdf/handouts/definitions.pdf> > > Hope this is helpful, > Graham > > ------------------------------------ > Graham Smart > Associate Professor > Carleton University > School of Linguistics & > Applied Language Studies > 215 Paterson Hall > 1125 Colonel By Drive > Ottawa, Ontario > Canada K1S 5B6 > (613) 520-2600 (Ext. 2000) > ------------------------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tania Smith" <[log in to unmask]> > > To: <[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:31 PM > > Subject: The word "Rhetoric" on the internet > > > > > >> Greetings CSSR and CASLL list members. > >> > >> On my professional web page I have posted a number of internet search > >> results that may be of interest to colleagues who share an interest in > >> how > >> the word "rhetoric" is being used online and where the field is being > >> taught in academic programs: > >> > >> http://www.ucalgary.ca/~smit/RhetLinks/index.htm<http://www.ucalgary.ca/%7Esmit/RhetLinks/index.htm> > >> > >> * (NEW) Result Counts for "Rhetoric and ... " through Google.ca, May > >> 14, 2008 > >> * Communication programs with strengths in Rhetoric. BA through PhD. > >> , October 2007 > >> * Rhetoric Programs: Interdisciplinary. October 2007 > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to > [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, > write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] > > For the list archives and information about the organization, > its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to > http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > -- *~*Gramarye/Glamour/Grammar: the power to bewitch and enchant through the learned use of spoken and written language.*~* === For more, visit http://members.shaw.ca/GlamorousGrammar/index.html -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To leave the list, send a SIGNOFF CASLL command to [log in to unmask] or, if you experience difficulties, write to Russ Hunt at [log in to unmask] For the list archives and information about the organization, its newsletter, and the annual conference, go to http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-