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KF, good observation. I don't know, but as compared to today, Health care was pretty poor for everyone in colonial times as was the state of medicine. In 1900 life expectancy was 45. The enumerated powers of congress do not extend to education or any kind of "welfare". A great deal has been done with the "implied" powers of Article VIII #18, the "elastic clause" where congress can pass all laws necessary and proper to carry out the enumerated powers like taxation, coining money, establishing inferior courts, regulating foreign and interstate commerce, declaring war, etc. Health care would probably be justified under the interstate commerce power (although a stretch)., e.g my DBS NTs were made in a different state, my surgeon trained elsewhere, health insurance that is portable. Opponents of "big" government want to go back to the days when a small government met the needs of a small nation. They might even get rid of the postal service. Or they could go back to the toll roads of the feudal system. There is nothing in the constitution about interstate highways or aviation either. The constitution is a brilliant piece of work as it can be modified to adapt to the times. Ray Rayilyn Brown Director AZNPF Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation [log in to unmask] -------------------------------------------------- From: "K. F. Etzold" <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:37 AM To: <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising > Ray: > I think it interesting that health and more specifically health care is > not mentioned in the constitution. I think the founding fathers assumed > that it was available to all and did not need special protection or > mention. > K. F. cg Carline > > rayilynlee wrote: >> Charlie >> >> The purposes of the constitution are contained in the Preamble which >> states that: >> >> "We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect >> union, ESTABLISH JUSTICE, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the >> common defense, PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the blessings of >> liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this >> constitution for the United States of America." >> >> The original document counted slaves as 3/5 a person and women could not >> vote. Thank goodness the founders gave us general guidelines and the >> ability to adapt to the times with this document. >> >> For those of us who believe that universal health care is a right, not a >> privilege of the rich, it is long overdue and in keeping with the >> principles of government stated above. >> >> Ray >> >> Rayilyn Brown >> Director AZNPF >> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation >> [log in to unmask] >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Black Charles" <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:18 AM >> To: <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: Baboon Rising >> >>> there are 4-5 million people who truly cannot afford health insurance. >>> The rest (16-25 million) are either here illegally and as such the only >>> government funds we should spend on them is a one way ticket to their >>> country of origin. The other 15-20 million choose not to purchase >>> insurance. >>> Health care is NOT a Constitutional right! How would you feel if you >>> were >>> ORDERED by the Federal government to purchase health insurance? >>> >>> >>> The Congressional Budget Office said back in April that the unfunded >>> liability of Obamas plan was 1 TRILLION dollars and that the deficit >>> would be 12 TRILLION dollars even before healthcare. Those of us on >>> MEdicare will be devestated if Obama tries to pull 500 BILLION dollars >>> from it to partially pay for his plan. >>> >>> WE can solve this problem without wrecking our economy. >>> >>> IF Obama gets his way we will see horrific inflation. >>> IF you note Obama last week had to agree with the CBO on the deficit >>> figures. >>> >>> Here's a hint for you guys, watch what he DOES, NOT what he says!!! >>> >>> look at the "Czars' he surrounds himself with. >>> >>> The special prosecutor for the CIA interrogators is just a ruse to draw >>> your attention away from his next move and to mollify his ultra-liberal >>> power base. >>> >>> P.T.Barnum was right......... >>> >>> >>> Charlie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >>> mailto:[log in to unmask] >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:[log in to unmask] >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn