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Advanced civilisation has been invented ? send it back, it's broken. Quoting Murray Kastner <[log in to unmask]>: > Let me get this straight: the richest and advanced civilization on > this planet cannot afford the care and welfare of its citizens? There > is something seriously wrong with this picture! Maybe if the USA > refrained from stupid and expensive wars based on lies and deception > and fomented for profit, it could what might be termed its primary > obligations. Is that too simplistic? > > On 1-Sep-09, at 10:13 AM, Black Charles wrote: > > > RAy; > > > > No where in this magnificent document is health care mentioned as > > a right. > > > > Single payer WILL lead to rationing. We do not have enough doctors > > to service the millions who would be come elgible for care. > > > > I think that we should incrementally ease in to a program that > > will take care of the 5-6 million who truly cannot afford it. > > > > To do otherwise risks a protracted resession. > > > > I will email you a proper answer to y our post. > > > > I am still amazed that Mr. Hill called me a racist. When all else > > fails I suppose......LOL > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> From: rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]> > >> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:40 PM > >> Charlie > >> > >> The purposes of the constitution are contained in the > >> Preamble which states that: > >> > >> "We the people of the United States, in order to form a > >> more perfect union, ESTABLISH JUSTICE, insure domestic > >> tranquility, provide for the common defense, PROMOTE THE > >> GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the blessings of liberty to > >> ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this > >> constitution for the United States of America." > >> > >> The original document counted slaves as 3/5 a person and > >> women could not vote. Thank goodness the founders gave > >> us general guidelines and the ability to adapt to the times > >> with this document. > >> > >> For those of us who believe that universal health care is a > >> right, not a privilege of the rich, it is long overdue and > >> in keeping with the principles of government stated above. > >> > >> Ray > >> > >> Rayilyn Brown > >> Director AZNPF > >> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation > >> [log in to unmask] > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "Black Charles" <[log in to unmask]> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:18 AM > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > >> Subject: Re: Baboon Rising > >> > >>> there are 4-5 million people who truly cannot > >> afford health insurance. The rest (16-25 million) are either > >> here illegally and as such the only government funds we > >> should spend on them is a one way ticket to their country of > >> origin. The other 15-20 million choose not to purchase > >> insurance. > >>> Health care is NOT a Constitutional right! How > >> would you feel if you were > >>> ORDERED by the Federal government to purchase health > >> insurance? > >>> > >>> > >>> The Congressional Budget Office said back in > >> April that the unfunded liability of Obamas plan was 1 > >> TRILLION dollars and that the deficit would be 12 TRILLION > >> dollars even before healthcare. Those of us on MEdicare will > >> be devestated if Obama tries to pull 500 BILLION dollars > >> from it to partially pay for his plan. > >>> > >>> WE can solve this problem without wrecking our > >> economy. > >>> > >>> IF Obama gets his way we will see horrific inflation. > >>> IF you note Obama last week had to agree with the CBO > >> on the deficit figures. > >>> > >>> Here's a hint for you guys, watch what he DOES, > >> NOT what he says!!! > >>> > >>> look at the "Czars' he surrounds himself with. > >>> > >>> The special prosecutor for the CIA interrogators > >> is just a ruse to draw your attention away from his > >> next move and to mollify his ultra-liberal power > >> base. > >>> > >>> P.T.Barnum was right......... > >>> > >>> > >>> Charlie > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > >>> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > >> > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > ---------------------------------------------- This mail sent through http://www.ukonline.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn