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From: chew nee kong <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 18:44:38
Subject: Re: A "mixed" economy
Dear Ray
Thanks for enlightening me.
I personally believe that every government in this world has the responsibility to take good care of the people's health. Fortunately, being a former British colony, my country still maintains some of the policies left behind by the British. Generally the Malaysian government provides reasonably good health care. Malaysians can check into any government hospital and get the treatment with minimal cost.
But as far as Parkinson's is concerned, out treatment is outdated. That's why we are constantly requesting our Health Minister to set up a National Parkinson's Committee, which makes sure that we have adequate annual allocations for Parkinson's medications and brain surgery (DBS).
But we also have a lot of private hospitals - it is a lucrative business. Almost all patients are insurance policy holders.
NK
> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 00:03:04 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: A "mixed" economy
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> NK
>
> The United States has what economists call a "mixed economy" - capitalism
> with regulations and controls like the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890 which
> supposedly makes monopolies illegal, the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, and
> other regulations on capitalists. We practice "socialism" with Medicare
> and Medicaid because they are government healthcare insurance programs.
>
> Re Medicare, I pay into it with Social Security, which I earned, and which
> is a reasonable amount, I can go to any doctor I want, there are no
> pre-existing conditions or being dumped if I get sick, and what the
> government does is provide medical insurance coverage without making huge
> profits, like private insurers are doing. For example, Cigna CEO Hanway
> makes $12.2 milllion dollars a year salary and is retiring with $73 million.
> Medicare pays 80% of my bills and my secondary insurance from the school
> district I taught for usually picks up the rest.
>
> Yes, private insurance companies are making tons of money off their policy
> holders. This is what the "free market" of capitalism does in its pursuit
> of profit if it is not controlled. But there is an unreasonable fear of
> "socialism" in this country so it is very difficult to accomplish anything.
> It was very difficult to get Medicare in 1965, the same arguments of cost
> and socialism were used by Republicans against it.
>
> Ray
>
> Rayilyn Brown
> Director AZNPF
> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
> [log in to unmask]
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "chew nee kong" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 4:46 AM
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: paying for it
>
> > Dear Ray
> >
> > > > I am sorry that you are so upset about the health care system in your
> > country. Frankly speaking, I am also very surprised that America cannot
> > provide adequate care to the Parkinson's patients compared with the UK.
> >
> > I am not familiar with anything in this world other than Medicine. Am I
> > right to say
> > that America tends to practice capitalism, rather than socialism (this
> > may sound like a stupid question)?
> >
> >
> > Are the insurance companies making tonnes of money out of the policy
> > holders?
> >
> > > I hope President Obama can change the situation for the better. We need
> > > to give him time.
> >
> > With your persistent efforts, I am sure that one day someone in your
> > country will listen to you and change the policy. To start with, you
> > already have a faithful follower in Malaysia (i.e. me).
> >
> >
> >
> > Despite both of us coming from different countries, which have
> > different health care systems, it does not change the fact that I
> > admire you for what you are fighting for. You are kind, and understand
> > the needs and sufferings of Parkinson's patients.
> >
> >
> >
> > NK
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 14:26:04 -0700
> >> From: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: paying for it
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> Dear NK
> >>
> >> I think you have a better chance of getting health care in your country
> >> than we do in ours. There are too many people here who believe Obama
> >> was
> >> born in Kenya and that the planet is 5,000 years old. I'm very
> >> depressed.
> >>
> >> Good luck with your efforts.
> >>
> >> Ray
> >>
> >> Rayilyn Brown
> >> Director AZNPF
> >> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
> >> [log in to unmask]
> >>
> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> From: "chew nee kong" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:01 AM
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: paying for it
> >>
> >> > Dear Ray
> >> >
> >> > I know that this is a very complicated issue. If you are looking for a
> >> > good health care model, I think the UK has a rather successful one. The
> >> > British government takes good care of their Parkinson's patients. All
> >> > the
> >> > DBS surgery and even the expensive Apomorphine skin infusion are
> >> > sponsored
> >> > by the NHS.
> >> >
> >> > Talking about health policy, next year, we in Malaysia will set up a
> >> > National Parkinson's Policy, which is based on the NICE Parkinson's
> >> > guidelines of the UK. I am going to ask our Health Minister to
> >> > incorporate
> >> > the British health care system into ours.
> >> >
> >> > President Obama has to work very hard to improve the American health
> >> > care
> >> > system.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your constructive comments.
> >> >
> >> > Dr Chew
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 09:41:14 -0700
> >> >> From: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> Subject: Re: paying for it
> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >>
> >> >> Apparently the "greatest", most advanced civilization on earth cannot
> >> >> provide affordable health care for its citizens because insurance CEOs
> >> >> make
> >> >> an average of $13.8 million a year and doing anything to take the
> >> >> profit
> >> >> out
> >> >> of healthcare is "socialism". Unnecessary, imperialistic wars also
> >> >> deplete
> >> >> our treasury. We have military bases in over 150 places abroad.
> >> >>
> >> >> We would do well to take a look at how the rest of the developed world
> >> >> handles healthcare, but then that would be unpatriotic, no?
> >> >>
> >> >> Melissa, a young woman who works for her Dad in his counter and
> >> >> cupboard
> >> >> business, Granite Transformations (they did my kitchen) and has
> >> >> rheumitoid
> >> >> arthritis pays $900/monthly for health insurance.
> >> >>
> >> >> Kathy, my caregiver, was paying $1200 a month until she turned 65 and
> >> >> qualified for Medicare. She now worries, thanks to Fox "News", that
> >> >> Obama
> >> >> will take it away.
> >> >>
> >> >> Have you people no shame? How much do you pay for healthcare?
> >> >>
> >> >> Ray
> >> >>
> >> >> Rayilyn Brown
> >> >> Director AZNPF
> >> >> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >>
> >> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> >> From: "Black Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 6:10 AM
> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising
> >> >>
> >> >> > as a taxpayer, of I want only to take care of those who are truly
> >> >> > unable
> >> >> > to take care of themselves. We can afford to do that.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --- On Wed, 9/2/09, Murray Kastner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> From: Murray Kastner <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising
> >> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 1:33 AM
> >> >> >> Let me get this straight: the richest
> >> >> >> and advanced civilization on
> >> >> >> this planet cannot afford the care and welfare of its
> >> >> >> citizens? There
> >> >> >> is something seriously wrong with this picture! Maybe if
> >> >> >> the USA
> >> >> >> refrained from stupid and expensive wars based on lies and
> >> >> >> deception
> >> >> >> and fomented for profit, it could what might be termed its
> >> >> >> primary
> >> >> >> obligations. Is that too simplistic?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 1-Sep-09, at 10:13 AM, Black Charles wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > RAy;
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > No where in this magnificent document is
> >> >> >> health care mentioned as
> >> >> >> > a right.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Single payer WILL lead to rationing. We do not have
> >> >> >> enough doctors
> >> >> >> > to service the millions who would be come elgible for
> >> >> >> care.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I think that we should incrementally
> >> >> >> ease in to a program that
> >> >> >> > will take care of the 5-6 million who truly cannot
> >> >> >> afford it.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > To do otherwise risks a protracted resession.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I will email you a proper answer to y our post.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am still amazed that Mr. Hill called me a racist.
> >> >> >> When all else
> >> >> >> > fails I suppose......LOL
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --- On Mon, 8/31/09, rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> From: rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Constitution Rising
> >> >> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> >> Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 8:40 PM
> >> >> >> >> Charlie
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The purposes of the constitution are contained in
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> Preamble which states that:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "We the people of the United States, in order to
> >> >> >> form a
> >> >> >> >> more perfect union, ESTABLISH JUSTICE,
> >> >> >> insure domestic
> >> >> >> >> tranquility, provide for the common defense,
> >> >> >> PROMOTE THE
> >> >> >> >> GENERAL WELFARE, and secure the blessings of
> >> >> >> liberty to
> >> >> >> >> ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and
> >> >> >> establish this
> >> >> >> >> constitution for the United States of America."
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> The original document counted slaves as 3/5 a
> >> >> >> person and
> >> >> >> >> women could not vote. Thank goodness the
> >> >> >> founders gave
> >> >> >> >> us general guidelines and the ability to adapt to
> >> >> >> the times
> >> >> >> >> with this document.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> For those of us who believe that universal health
> >> >> >> care is a
> >> >> >> >> right, not a privilege of the rich, it is long
> >> >> >> overdue and
> >> >> >> >> in keeping with the principles of government
> >> >> >> stated above.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Ray
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Rayilyn Brown
> >> >> >> >> Director AZNPF
> >> >> >> >> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
> >> >> >> >> [log in to unmask]
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >> From: "Black Charles" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 10:18 AM
> >> >> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: Baboon Rising
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>> there are 4-5 million people who truly
> >> >> >> cannot
> >> >> >> >> afford health insurance. The rest (16-25 million)
> >> >> >> are either
> >> >> >> >> here illegally and as such the only government
> >> >> >> funds we
> >> >> >> >> should spend on them is a one way ticket to their
> >> >> >> country of
> >> >> >> >> origin. The other 15-20 million choose not to
> >> >> >> purchase
> >> >> >> >> insurance.
> >> >> >> >>> Health care is NOT a Constitutional
> >> >> >> right! How
> >> >> >> >> would you feel if you were
> >> >> >> >>> ORDERED by the Federal government to purchase
> >> >> >> health
> >> >> >> >> insurance?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> The Congressional Budget Office said
> >> >> >> back in
> >> >> >> >> April that the unfunded liability of Obamas plan
> >> >> >> was 1
> >> >> >> >> TRILLION dollars and that the deficit would be 12
> >> >> >> TRILLION
> >> >> >> >> dollars even before healthcare. Those of us on
> >> >> >> MEdicare will
> >> >> >> >> be devestated if Obama tries to pull 500 BILLION
> >> >> >> dollars
> >> >> >> >> from it to partially pay for his plan.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> WE can solve this problem without
> >> >> >> wrecking our
> >> >> >> >> economy.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> IF Obama gets his way we will see horrific
> >> >> >> inflation.
> >> >> >> >>> IF you note Obama last week had to agree with
> >> >> >> the CBO
> >> >> >> >> on the deficit figures.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Here's a hint for you guys, watch what
> >> >> >> he DOES,
> >> >> >> >> NOT what he says!!!
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> look at the "Czars' he surrounds himself
> >> >> >> with.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> The special prosecutor for the CIA
> >> >> >> interrogators
> >> >> >> >> is just a ruse to draw your attention away
> >> >> >> from his
> >> >> >> >> next move and to mollify his ultra-liberal
> >> >> >> power
> >> >> >> >> base.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> P.T.Barnum was right.........
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Charlie
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
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