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I think that combination is workable, given the later classification of "preaching" as a form of rhetoric in the late medieval/early Renaissance period. The resulting synthesis might be an interesting paradigm from which to revisit early liturgical drama. -----Original Message----- From: Tiner, Elza <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2009 12:24 pm Subject: Re: Query about preaching and theatre Valentina, I am working on a similar problem, though not in preaching, but through the study of Latin sources for theory, principles, of acting. While I have not found documents to support the correlation between preaching and theatre, correlations between rhetoric and acting in delivery may be helpful. See for example, my article on Giles of Rome's [theologian and prior general of the Austin friars, 1292] 13th-c. commentary on the relationship between rhetoric and acting in Aristotle's rhetoric [Elza C. Tiner, "Aristotle's Rhetoric in Late Medieval England: Giles of Rome on Rhetoric and Acting," _Research Opportunities in Medieval and Renaissance Drama_ XLVII (2008): 82-106] and Jody Enders' book, _Rhetoric and the Origins of Medieval Drama_ (Cornell UP, 1992). Let me know what you find, when your dissertation has been completed and is available for others to read, or if you publish articles on this subject. Best wishes, Elza C. Tiner Professor of English & Latin School of Humanities & Social Sciences Lynchburg College Lynchburg, VA 24501 -----Original Message----- From: REED-L: Records of Early English Drama Discussion [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Christoph Cluse Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 2:56 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Query about preaching and theatre Dear Valentina, There is a famous passage in the chronicle by the Franciscan John of Winterthur relating to the setting of the stage for sermons by Berthold of Regensburg: http://www-alt.uni-trier.de/uni/fb3/geschichte/cluse/pred5.htm Please give my best regards to George and Carolyn Christoph Cluse, Trier Abigail Ann Young schrieb: > I confess that I cannot think of anything that quite meets the > criteria in this question, so I thought of throwing it open to the > list. If you have any suggestions, please reply both to the list and > to Ms Berardini. > > Abigail > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Request of Information on G. Ferzoco suggestion > Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:47:36 +0100 (CET) > From: <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > Dear Prof. Young, > I am writing you on Prof. George Ferzoco's suggestion. I am an Italian > Phd student and I am now spending a study period at the University of > Bristol working with Prof. G. Ferzoco and Prof. C. Muessig. My PhD > research project is about the relationship between medieval preaching > and theatre. Thus I am reading sermons by English and Italian > preachers in order to discover hidden theatrical element that can show > the use of theatrical means by preachers. In order to achieve this aim > I am interested in finding documents (if they exist) about the setting > of the preaching scene by which is it possible to demonstrate that > medieval preaching shared a lot of features with theatre. Although all > of the authors of the Artes Praedicandi spoke against theatre and > tried to avoid any similarity between preachers and minstrels and > actors, still preachers used a lot of actors' means in order to catch > the attention of the public. > Have you ever find anything related with this topic? > It would be a pleasure to share with you my thoughts on this research > as I am very interested in your project. > Thank you for your kindness, I am looking forward for your reply, > Best, > Valentina Berardini > >