Why not ask David himself? He's a human being as well as a name on a book spine. Actually I'm seeing him on Monday to present the second half of his Festschift, so I'll try to remember to ask him them -- my memory is sieve-like at the moment. Meg Twycross Professor Emeritus of English Medieval Studies, Department of English and Creative Writing, Lancaster University, LANCASTER LA1 4YD ________________________________ From: REED-L: Records of Early English Drama Discussion on behalf of Matthew Sergi Sent: Wed 02-Dec-09 21:00 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: One about Chester Dear REED list, I've been caught up on a minor point in the current EETS Edition of the Chester cycle, and thought I'd open it up to the list. For the Chester Passion, Mills and Lumiansky gloss the torturers' dice rolls of "dubletts," "cator-traye," and "synnce" as three twos, three fours, and three fives, respectively. I've been scanning various medieval and early modern sources and cannot figure out the source of those glosses -- all of my sources point to "a pair," "a three and a four," and "five" for the rolls (even though the rolls were on three dice -- I've found other cases in which a three-die roll is referred to by a functional pair within it, regardless of the value of the third die). However, my instinct is still to trust Mills and Lumiansky's reading; can anyone point me in the right direction to find further textual support for their gloss? Gratefully, Matthew Sergi Ph.D. Candidate, English and Medieval Studies University of California, Berkeley