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In UK fava beans are known as broad beans and are widely eaten in the  
late spring and early summer. In fact I'm waiting to plant some seeds  
in my allotment garden now, if only it would stop raining. They have  
no noticeable medicinal effect on me but they are delicious when  
picked young. I think you would have to eat an awful lot to get any l- 
dopa out of them by which time you might feel rather windy at the rear  
end.
As to the description of PD, Sanskrit ayurvedic texts going back as  
much as 4,000 years describe the condition, calling it Kampa Vata.  
Incidentally, another member of the legume family mucuna pruriens, or  
kapikachu, is a known source of l-dopa.

http://www.ayurvedacollege.com/articles/drhalpern/clinical/Parkinson
contains more on all this.

David Thurston




On 5 Dec 2009, at 05:00, PARKINSN automatic digest system wrote:

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>  1. PD First  Described in 1690
>  2. fava beans (2)
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> From: rayilynlee <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 4 December 2009 02:39:57 GMT
> Subject: PD First Described in 1690
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> PARKINSON'S DISEASE NEWS
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> 3rd December 2009 - New research
> PARKINSON'S DISEASE WAS DESCRIBED IN 1690
> Parkinsonism Related Disorders [2009] (D.Bereczki) Complete abstract
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> A detailed description of Parkinson's Disease has been discovered  
> that dates from 1690. That is over a century before the first  
> claimed formal description in 1817 by James Parkinson, after whom  
> Parkinson's Disease was subsequently named. Symptoms of Parkinson's  
> Disease, most frequently tremor, have been described since ancient  
> times and throughout history. For more information go to The History  
> of Parkinson's Disease. However, the first systematic description of  
> Parkinson's Disease is usually attributed to James Parkinson in  
> 1817. Over 127 years before James Parkinson described it, the  
> Hungarian doctor Pápai Páriz Ferenc (1649-1716) described in his  
> medical text Pax Corporis not only individual signs of Parkinson's  
> Disease, but all four cardinal signs : tremor, bradykinesia, rigor  
> and postural instability. The book was published in Hungarian, which  
> because it is understood by so few people, has resulted in his  
> description of Parkinson's Disease being ignored in the medical  
> literature all this time. In order to refer to this article on its  
> own click here.
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> Rayilyn Brown
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> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
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> From: mschild <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 4 December 2009 07:12:26 GMT
> Subject: Re: fava beans
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>> As best I can recall (without actually looking through the archives)
>> there were two threads of info.
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> I remember there were a few articles published on fava beans and its  
> effect on
> PD. One was published in Turkey where they eat a lot of them. Must  
> all be in
> the archives.
> They cause favism in certain populations
> maryse
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> From: Nic Marais <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 4 December 2009 09:03:45 GMT
> Subject: Re: fava beans
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> ROFLOL!!!
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> Nic 57/16
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> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 9:12 AM, mschild <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> As best I can recall (without actually looking through the archives)
>>> there were two threads of info.
>>
>>
>> I remember there were a few articles published on fava beans and  
>> its effect
>> on
>> PD. One was published in Turkey where they eat a lot of them. Must  
>> all be
>> in
>> the archives.
>> They cause favism in certain populations
>> maryse
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