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Hi Roger.  I hope that we won't have to cancel that meeting on Tuesday.  I too thought that there was enough of a response last year to safely say that the INKSHED meeting should be held the day after the CASDW conference.  How many people are planning to come to that?  An extra day in Montreal in spring can't be that much of a turn-off!  An ever-optimistic, Theresa. 

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From: Roger Graves <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, April 23, 2010 7:00 pm
Subject: Re: archives
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> Russ,
> I think the discussion archive may be an important historical 
> resource for future research, so it should be preserved some 
> way. I can bring this up for discussion at the CASDW Annual 
> General Meeting to see if that group wants to add it to the 
> CASDW website/space (currently hosted by the University of 
> Manitoba; Christina Penner is the person responsible for this, 
> so I've copied her on this message). That meeting is June 1; is 
> that within your timeframe at UNB?
> 
> Failing that, we could look into hosting it here at the U of 
> Alberta. We have an applications developer who works with 
> Writing Studies, and I'm pretty sure she would be able to do this.
> 
> But your message opens up another point of discussion I had been 
> meaning to write about this week. Will there be an Inkshed 
> meeting this year? At CASDW last year, 18 people crowded into a 
> small room and expressed quite a bit of enthusiasm for such a 
> meeting. This winter, ten people responded to my email about 
> meeting for a day at the end of the CASDW conference for an 
> Inkshed meeting. Two weeks ago, in response to an email to get 
> started planning that day, only one of those ten people 
> responded. Today, I can't see that there is any point in renting 
> a room for an Inkshed meeting at CASDW.
> 
> Is this the consensus of the larger group on the CASLL list?
> 
> Roger Graves
> 
> Roger Graves
> Director, Writing Across the Curriculum
> [log in to unmask]
> http://www.ualberta.ca/~graves1/index.html
> 
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:08 AM, Russ Hunt wrote:
> 
> >Actually, Betsy, I wasn't clear; there are two archives.  
> One is the
> >archive of the CASLL list, which is part of the LISTSERV program
> >running at UNB.  It's here:
> >
> >https://listserv.unb.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A0=CASLL
> >
> >That's the one I think we need to do something about fairly soon.
> >
> >The other is the Inkshed Web site, which has all the issues of the
> >Newsletter, running back to September 1982.
> >
> >http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/backs.htm
> >
> >That's on the St. Thomas Web site,and while in the long run I think
> >it should move, too, it will probably be okay for a while.
> >
> >-- Russ
> >
> >On 23 Apr 2010 at 9:03, Betsy Sargent wrote:
> >
> >>Russ, I think the archives and the domain name are both
> >>important.  I'm wondering if it might make sense to have 
> CASDW host
> >>the archive (and also claim the domain name as a subgroup--
> sort of
> >>the way that CCCC is a subgroup of NCTE), if McGill was okay with
> >>that (it seems a natural connection to me, since so many 
> people in
> >>CASDW started with Inkshed).
> >>Those past newsletters are really useful--I send students to various
> >>of those articles online all the time.  I use them myself.
> >>
> >>Can you clarify for me if the archive is safe at UNB?  
> You said that
> >>"The existing Inkshed Web site, with its archive of back 
> issues of
> >>the Newsletter, will probably stay up indefinitely at STU"--
> but you
> >>also suggested that the listserv might be eliminated soon and that
> >>"The only way I know to preserve the archive, though, is to preserve
> >>the listserv."  If the archive is in danger, we need to 
> do something
> >>to preserve the inkshed website and past issues of the newsletter,
> >>in my view.
> >>
> >>Best, Betsy
> >>
> >>At 08:27 AM 4/23/2010, you wrote:
> >>>A few years ago I registered inkshed.ca as a domain name. I've
> >>never
> >>>done much with it -- all it does is to bounce browsers to
> >>>http://www.stu.ca/inkshed/ -- but the registration is about to
> >>>expire.  I don't see any point in my renewing it, but I 
> thought>>I'd
> >>>post the possibility on CASLL of someone else taking it over, in
> >>case
> >>>anyone has plans for it. There's a week before it expires and
> >>becomes
> >>>publicly available -- I suppose the easy way to claim it if you
> >>want
> >>>it would be to wait till it's free and register it. Of if you want
> >>it
> >>>and think someone's crouched and ready to pounce, let me know and
> >>>we'll arrange a transfer.
> >>>
> >>>The existing Inkshed Web site, with its archive of back 
> issues of
> >>the
> >>>Newsletter, will probably stay up indefinitely at STU, but if
> >>someone
> >>>has a better idea about preserving it it would be movable.
> >>>
> >>>In a similar issue, I've been finding it more and more difficult
> >>to
> >>>maintain the CASLL listserv. It's on the UNB server, and UNB
> >>doesn't
> >>>like to have listowners who aren't on the UNB system. (I'm having
> >>a
> >>>similar issue with the STLHE-L list, which is much bigger and
> >>more
> >>>active.) My guess is that in May they'll ask me to find someone
> >>with
> >>>a UNB account to act as listowner of record.
> >>>
> >>>There's only been one message on CASLL since the flurry about
> >>Inkshed
> >>>2010 toward the end of February, so it seems to me it's not
> >>serving
> >>>much function -- except that some people might think the CASLL
> >>>archive worth preserving. It goes back to January of 1995, and
> >>there
> >>>might be historical interest in some of the discussions. The only
> >>way
> >>>I know to preserve the archive, though, is to preserve the
> >>listserv.
> >>>That could be done by moving the whole works to another
> >>university
> >>>server running LISTSERV and willing to host it, but I've been
> >>trying
> >>>to set that up with STLHE-L, and finding it pretty complicated.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody have any ideas?
> >>>
> >>>-- Russ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Russ Hunt
> >>>Department of English
> >>>St. Thomas University
> >>>http://www.stu.ca/~hunt/
> >>>
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> >Russ Hunt
> >Department of English
> >St. Thomas University
> >http://www.stu.ca/~hunt/
> >
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