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Arbitrary? It seems a bit arbitrary to just pick the point when sperm and egg interact as "the moment" that "life begins". I'll assume for the purposes of discussion, that "life begins" means that moment when a separate human being is created. There seems to be no consensus on a specific timeline or order of events, etc. How is one's personhood determined to have started at one point or the other? Isn't there a complicated process that has to happen before during and after "conception"? What is the meaning of each of these points along the timeline of development? Rick -----Original Message----- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David McMurray Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:01 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Lets talk about ESC Mania!/DNA I understand the fact that there is DNA in every cell, but it all started at conception, a unique permanent ID that is undisputable. To me, that is a signature of life, and doesn't depend on any arbitrary proclamation of when it begins. -----Original Message----- From: Rayilyn Brown Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 5:21 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Lets talk about ESC Mania!/DNA or Dave DNA is there from the beginning but it is in every cell in your body and you don't consider each cell a person. Are you saying then that DNA should not be disturbed in any way? Should IVF be banned? -----Original Message----- From: mschild Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:49 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Lets talk about ESC Mania! > I respect your opinion on when a human being begins life. But at the > moment of conception, it is my understanding that an incredible event > occurs; a one of a kind stamp that will carry that individual's identity > from that moment and will survive his or her own death: DNA. Am I wrong, > does DNA come along sometime later in the development of the "fetus"? If > there is science that refutes my understanding of when DNA is established, > I'd appreciate seeing it. You must know that during IVF, a few ova are fertilized and then frozen. When used, they inplant one fertilized ovum in the uterus. If it works, a baby is born 9 months later. What happens to the frozen fertilized ´embryos´? If the couple does not want any more children, those ´embryos´ are destroyed. If not destroyed, they can be used to produce a line of stem cells that could finally contribute to a cure or at least a treatment for some disease. You prefer those embryos to be destroyed? your choice but some people prefer to use them to help sick people. I prefer hope to and end in a bin maryse ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn