Print

Print


Mary Ann, I have promised not to initiate political debate, but when it is 
introduced, should I not respond?  I realize I most likely am in the 
minority, (unless there is a "silent majority") :) on this site.  And at our 
age, the die, I'm sure is cast.  But when Ray or Nic post a question or a 
statement that crosses the line into the political arena, that is when I 
attempt to express my views on the subject.

Dave

-----Original Message----- 
From: Mary Ann Ryan
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 6:42 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: WHAT W I LL YOU DO IN NOVEMBER?

It would be best to leave political discussions off this forum.  No one
wins - and no one's mind is changed.
---------
Mary Ann


> Hi David,
>
> and thanks for responding.  I guess you fear Obama has death panels in 
> store for us, right?  So what do you suggest for health care?
>
> At one time in history  feudalism was a  "better" system.   Capitalism and 
> industralization  definitely led to human progress; non-industial 
> societies don't do very well.  But is this the end of the  line?  The best 
> we can do? I specifically asked why profit had to be a part of health care 
> and you did not address that question.
>
> The defects of the "free market" system put us in this mess, not Mr. 
> Obama. The repeal of  the Glass-Seagall Act's ban on investment and 
> commercial banking in one institution led to the financial breakdown.  It 
> had kept us safe since the 1930's
>
> I for one  am tired of hearing about the superiority of the  United 
> States. For your information  DBS was first done by a French doctor. 
> ProSavin is only being  done in the UK and France.
>
> I also think the big government vs. small government issue is a phony one. 
> What matters is who is in  the government not how big or small it is.  For 
> the past few decades  Republicans have gotten control  of  many state 
> governments.  Witness the retrogressive, extremist legislation they are 
> producing or attempting to produce, personhood laws, bans on collective 
> bargaining, invasive vaginal exams, voter suppression, anti-abortion, 
> stand your ground, etc.  Talk about Big Brother!!!!
>
> These issues do affect people with Parkinson's and all diseases for that 
> matter.   We ignore them at our peril.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: David McMurray
> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:26 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: WHAT W I LL YOU DO IN NOVEMBER?
>
> Ray, your comments and questions warrant a response.....in general, profit
> has made this country the most prosperous, with the highest standard of
> living, in the history of mankind.  Instead of a system, like the Soviet
> Union and others that shared and share equally in scarcity, (which 
> increases
> human suffering and a poverty standard of living), our Free Market economy
> has done just the opposite.  And if we can reverse the direction that Mr.
> Obama has pointed us in, we will continue to see opportunities for those 
> who
> want to work hard and improve their lot in life.
>
> I am much more concerned about Big Brother telling us what we can or 
> cannot
> be treated for.  I've seen the quotes, and the Panels of Experts that will
> eventually be formed under ObamaCare will have the power to deem an
> individual unfit for further treatment, or a specific treatment, (based on
> economic concerns, i.e., what's the cost/benefit factor.)  Obama has
> mentioned the fact that the rising cost of Care is directly related to the
> increased numbers of the Senior population and the expensive treatment for
> serious illnesses common to them.  Denying treatment is going to be a 
> major
> cost-cutting feature of OBC.....this concept used to be" Unthinkable", but
> has become "Thinkable", soon to be "Acceptable".....all done for the 
> "common
> good".
>
> November, for me is a "no-brainer"....:):)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Rayilyn Brown
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 1:57 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: WHAT W I LL YOU DO IN NOVEMBER?
>
> I just heard Romney’s address to the NRA.  he said Obama is destroying our
> economic, religious and personal freedom (to choose our own health  care),
> and the constitution .   The Declaration of Independence god-given rights
> was also cited.
>
> What kind of a  life does one have with Parkinson’s?
>
> Is a cure going to come from the free  market which sees no profit in a
> cure, the churches, or the NRA?
>
> Can someone tell me why profit has to be the foundation of our health 
> care?
>
> WHAT A TERRIBLE SHAME IT WOULD BE IF PROSAVIN TURNED OUT TO BE A CURE FOR
> PD, BUT WAS NOT PROFITABLE ENOUGH FOR THE “JOB CREATORS”!!
>
> Please, I beg you, don’t return us to the past.
>
> Ray
> Rayilyn Brown
> Past Director AZNPF
> Arizona Chapter National Parkinson Foundation
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: 
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: 
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: 
> mailto:[log in to unmask]
> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn

----------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn 

----------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask]
In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn