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when re-organising healthcare, someone needs to keep an eye on the paper-pushers - the little memo-maniacs have half-strangled the British health service. > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:51:57 -0700 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: as if > To: [log in to unmask] > > Think of health care like education; both do not generate immediate > financial gain, but the benefits are undeniable and teachers do not work for > free, but education is "free" if you don't pay property or local taxes. > > I am discouraged too re medical progress and am very sorry to hear your > husband is so bad off...and knowing that will be me too. > > Hoping support from the PIEN List helps a little bit. > > Ray > > -----Original Message----- > From: patti zapf > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 5:17 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: as if > > Curious... Are the doctors and hospitals to work for free as well? The > 8-12+ years of additional school gets paid for by who? > The government? In many countries, I understand this is the case. Health > care keeps progressing, allowing many to live longer and longer. Is this a > good thing? I think if I were really sick, I would feel and ask > differently. My husband is really sick and requires round the clock care... > > I knew this was coming, based on what we have been told, but in my heart I > hoped and prayed it wouldn't. My compassion and outlook are very dreary > right now towards medical progress. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mary Ann Ryan > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:44 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: as if > > If health care isn't affordable for everyone - we all lose. If vaccinations > aren't available to poor children, rich children are at risk of infection. > We are seeing alarming increases in Whooping Cough and Measles. Those > infections can kill. > > There are diseases that are not covered by vaccinations - such as TB. Bet > you don't want to sit next to someone on a bus, in a taxi or in a work place > with TB. How many people work through a chronic cough because they can't > afford healthcare?? > > ER visits and hospital stays are expensive. Hospitals may not turn away the > indigent - so the taxpayer has to pay for their care. I work as the > resident RN (volunteer) for a homeless shelter. One of our guests last year > lost both of his feet to frostbite. Because the hospital could not find a > Medicaid nursing home bed for him, the hospital kept discharging him to our > shelter. Five times he developed infections in his wounds which required ER > visits, 5 hospitalizations in isolated rooms because his infections were > hospital acquired, powerful antibiotics and advanced wound care. All of that > > in a 6 month period. We figure that he cost taxpayers $1 million dollars > until he was finally placed in a Medicaid facility (for which the taxpayer > is still paying - but the bill is cheaper). > > We all pay when health care isn't provided. > -------- > > > > Why should health care be FREE? If you are poor, why should the tax > > payers pay for your care? > > Why is everyone entitled to a better life? Please enlighten me. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Rack > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 8:46 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: as if > > > >>Denying treatment, denying choice is already a feature of medical > >>care, and has been for some time. For-profit insurers are certainly > >>not averse to piling on the procedures, diagnostics, and drugs for > >>which they will not pay, meaning that, as always, it's the very rich > >>who can get the best that medicine has to offer, anywhere in the > >>world, while the rest of us figure out what we will forego in order > >>to, let's say, continue to take brand name Sinemet when our coverage > >>is limited to generics. (And for many, all assertions to the contrary, > >>there IS a difference between the two.) Or perhaps we wake up from a > >>colonoscopy to find that a preventive exam turned into something else, > >>something not covered, when a suspicious polyp was removed while we > >>were unconscious. > >> > >>Thanks to the new policies under Obama, my 23-year-old nephew is able > >>to remain on his parents' policy, not stranded without insurance, as > >>my kids were after college; and my friend with cancer can't be denied > >>coverage because of her condition. Those are HUGE changes that > >>positively affect the lives of countless Americans. > >> > >>If the Supreme Court undoes the new health care laws, what's the point? > >>Congress might as well go home. It's what they seem to do best, anyway. > >> > >>Kathleen > >> > >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Kathleen, > > You have stated this issue clearly and succinctly. > > Thank you for spreading the word. > > -- > > Steve in VT > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn