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so people with big feet should fall less often - hmmm ? > Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 16:19:08 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Falling....help please > To: [log in to unmask] > > Actually, the center-of-gravity thing might be worth thinking about. A > basic of physics is this: given a "body" (any object) that is supported by a > base (legs, a stand...) in contact with (but not attached to) the ground, if > the center of gravity of the system (object + base) moves outside the > vertical projection of the base, the base will no longer be able to support > the system and it will topple. This could no doubt be stated more > precisely... An example: If you're on a step ladder and you lean out such > that the center of gravity of you+ladder is outside the rectangle formed by > the feet of the ladder, you+ladder will tip over. Applying this to the > human body: when you stand, your "base" is (roughly) the rectangle that your > shoes will just fit into, front to back and side to side. If you lean in a > given direction, your center of gravity shifts in that direction (provided > you're not doing anything to counterbalance). As soon as your CoG goes over > the edge of that rectangle around your shoes, you will start to fall. > > Two things I might try: 1- Get a sense of where my CoG is. This can be done > by standing and carefully rocking front to back and feeling the pressure on > the heels and balls of the feet as I rock. Then, find the point where the > pressure is even between fronts and backs of the feet. This would be the > position where the CoG is best centered over the base (feet). Next, I'd > try to think about where I feel the pressure on my feet when I'm doing > routine stuff, and see if there are postures that tend to put more pressure > on the balls of my feet or heels. These would be situations where a fall > might be more likely. 2- Consider the shoes. I like to wear more comfy > shoes, except when I go to the therapist. If I don't want to get lectured, > I put on the "right" shoes: the ones with the good support, strong heels and > stiff soles. Think about it, though: the proper fit and stiffness of the > soles of a good pair of shoes provide a better base and, in theory at least, > should make falling less likely. > > For what it's worth... > > Roger > > -----Original Message----- > From: A Phillips > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:26 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Falling....help please > > Think my center of gravity may be outside my body..... > > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 02:29:22 -0500 > > From: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: Falling....help please > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > Invaluable! Lots of strong research about tai chi and yoga, much centers > > around finding and knowing your center of gravity. Center will change with > > age and especially with pd. learning to fall is also a wonderful > > suggestion. Great! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Rick McGirr <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > This is going to sound ridiculous to some of you... > > > > > > I have a background of past activity at a martial arts school, or > > > "dojo", > > > specifically Nihon Goshin Aikido. At the beginning of every class, we > > > would > > > actually practice falling. We had very specific procedures for > > > front-fall, > > > side-fall, back-fall. And we would do it a lot. It was essential to do > > > this, > > > because Aikido includes a lot of throwing moves, like Judo, so we could > > > count on hitting the deck several dozen times per class. > > > > > > I am very fortunate to have had this training, albeit before my > > > diagnosis in > > > 2001. It was a very good way to develop awareness of my body and its > > > balance, vulnerability, strength, and it gave me a tough inner core, > > > tempered in lessons under a quite demanding sensei, or teacher. > > > > > > Now, I would never suggest that PWP all sign on with a martial arts > > > academy. > > > And I would also suggest maximum caution and collaboration with physical > > > therapist, doctor, sensei, personal assistant, mom, dad, cousin Ralph > > > and > > > everybody else you can think of. And further, I only suggest this to > > > those > > > who are ready, physically and emotionally, to enter into this kind of > > > study. > > > And all the disclaimers apply doubly. I don't know what I am talking > > > about > > > in any case. I would not ever represent myself as an authority on > > > anything > > > except playing rock n roll on the piano. And even that can be dangerous! > > > But... > > > > > > But yes, you are hearing me correctly. I am indeed suggesting that, > > > since > > > you do it so often, make a study of falling. I certainly would never > > > have > > > survived the aikido school without the knowledge I gained there. And > > > there > > > have been times when the habits gained at aikido school saved my ass > > > literally. (head, back, knees, elbows, etc.) > > > > > > With respect, > > > Rick > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Parkinson's Information Exchange Network > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Meg Duggan > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:28 AM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: Falling....help please > > > > > > Do u tend to fall upon rising? Adding a bit of salt to your diet can > > > help > > > with sudden drops in blood pressure that can occur. If u are falling > > > because > > > of a dropped foot, there are appliances that help keep the foot in a > > > better > > > position. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > On Oct 15, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Nigel Harland <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi all, > > >> Does anyone have any helpfull advice on preventing falling,? I > > > fall on average 3 times a day, sometimes more. > > >> It is only a matter of time before I will do myself some serious > > >> damage. I > > > use a walker but even this does not always stop me from from falling. > > >> Regards, > > >> Nigel Harland. > > >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > > mailto:[log in to unmask] > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: mailto:[log in to unmask] In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn