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Thanks, Roger. This is, I think, the same repository that I explored when looking for a place for my Web site. STU doesn’t have one. UNB does, but it’s just for UNB faculty (annoying because many people – like me – came to STU on the understanding, sometimes the explicit condition, that we’d have access to UNB  facilities). And yes, Toronto has one and said they’d be willing to accept my stuff – the problem was that as I looked at how it would need to be stored it was clear that the way my Website grouped and organized material would not have worked on that site, and much of it – like my online theatre reviews and the course publications on theatre productions – wouldn’t have been acceptable.

I don’t know why I didn’t think of it for CASLL-L, though; perhaps because it hadn’t been appropriate in my own case. I do think it’s worth exploring. An issue is that the database needs, I think, to be searchable by thread, date, author, etc., as the LISTSERV archive is. That I don’t know about. Maybe Margaret can find out about the UT archive (since it’s already there)?


  *   Russ





From: casll-l: Canadian Association for the Study of Language and Learning (Inkshed) <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Roger Graves
Sent: October 15, 2018 3:12 PM
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Subject: Re: The extinction of Inkshed

Russ and Margaret,
Re. preservation, I agree with Brian that duplication of the archive is a good strategy and that a Wikipedia page might work as one way to help people find them.

At the U of A, the library has a digital archive initiative:

Open Access Institutional Repository ERA (Education and Research Archive)

https://era.library.ualberta.ca<https://era.library.ualberta.ca/>

ERA promotes research discovery and digital preservation services in an open access environment. This service is recognized as an adoptive repository by the Canadian Association of Research Libraries<http://www.carl-abrc.ca/en/scholarly-communications/canadian-ir-repositories/adoptive-repositories.html>.



I would assume that the University of Toronto has an equivalent, Margaret, so maybe go looking into that? Russ, I'm not sure if St. Thomas has this but UNB might. The problem I foresee is that to deposit materials like the Inkshed archive they may require the depositor to have permission from contributors for publication. That is unworkable with a listerv, but maybe they would accept the argument that this was always public anyway?

A thought, anyway.



Roger





On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 6:45 AM Brian Hotson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Hello –

Thanks for bringing this up, Russ. Though I was only at two Inkshed gatherings, Inkshed provided me, professionally, grounding in academic writing and the academic writing community, at a time when the CWCA was struggling with its existence. The CWCA meeting at STLHE in 2012 had only 5 people in a small boardroom at McGill, two of which were Inkshedders. Theresa Hyland calls Inkshed the “grandmother” of both CASDW and CWCA.

The listserve and archive are extremely important to the story of academic writing, rhetoric, and the community in the Canadian context. The fact that this discussion is occurring here is a sign of its usefulness! With the number of means of communicating online, e-mail still requires direct attention.

As Margaret mentioned, she’s written an excellent piece for the Writing Lab Newsletter blog, which will go up Oct 23rd. I’m hoping that this post will provide greater audience for the work of Inkshed, the Inkshed archives, the story of academic writing in Canada, and those who were involved. I’ll post it to the listserve when it’s up. For the archived newsletters, etc., I suggest that these should be backed up in multiple locations. It might be an idea to have the archive linked from the IWCA website and other regional and national writing centre associations  – I can look into this, if there is interest.

The wiki idea is a great one, esp. with a bibliography. It may also be a moment to consider an edited volume of the letters and publications of Inkshed, published by Inkshed, of course…

Thanks,

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From: "casll-l: Canadian Association for the Study of Language and Learning (Inkshed)" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Russell Hunt <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Date: Friday, October 12, 2018 at 8:47 PM
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Subject: Re: The extinction of Inkshed

Let me try to respond to a number of emails in one, to avoid causing unnecessary RSI . . .

Doug says he thinks it's good to have the newsletters accessible, but says that's already happening: on the other hand, Carl says he couldn't find his own article in it, looking for it specifically. I think the issue is practical accessibility, and right now, where it is on the CASDW site, it's accessible but not exactly findable. It's like being on the library shelf but not in the catalog. I think that's the point Natasha makes, and Carolyn agrees with (as do I).

Kathy makes what I think is a brilliant suggestion: a wikipedia entry. I am (or anyway was at one time) a wikipedia editor. I propose to explore that and draft an entry, inviting other inkshedders to become editors (or exercise their editorship) to help. Not sure how quickly that can happen, because I'm off for Scotland and Ireland for a couple of weeks on Tuesday, and my dance card for the next few days is filling up, but I'll take a run at it.

I'm puzzled by Lois' posting, but on the assumption that it was intended for me and went to the list in error (like Brenda's signoff message), I'll suggest it be ignored on the list.

I'd like to reiterate (contra Doug) that I think the archive of CASLL-L is itself an important resource. Yes, the postings on it are rather like inksheds, in that they were  situational and thus narrow and perhaps intended to be forgotten once used, like inksheds or conversation; on the other hand it's a record of where ideas arose and developed, and when, at least after 1995. As a LISTSERV archive, it's searchable by date and topic and poster, and I think is sort of like a steamer trunk full of correspondence, except there's an index on the cover. I think it's worth trying to make sure it survives and is accessible (at least until climate change floods all the servers . . . )

I also think a bibliography of inkshed-related publications would be a useful resource, and might become part of a wikipedia entry. But that's a more ambitious project than I want to think about on a Friday night.

Thank you to everybody who replied.

-- Russ

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