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Your husband has a condition called myoclonus. This is seen with PD and can be helped by adjusting levodopa especially later in the day. It is important that you see your neurologist about this as you can be injured if your husband is very active at night. I don't know what dopgin is, but perhaps htis is the medicine which shoukld be stopped. On Thu, 8 Dec 1994, Automatic digest processor wrote: > There are 17 messages totalling 716 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. <No subject given> > 2. pschological-mythical thoughts on illness > 3. SUGGESTIONS?????? (4) > 4. your mail > 5. virus HOAX > 6. Welcome (fwd) (3) > 7. test message (2) > 8. Low Protein Drink > 9. INTERNET mail "virus" a hoax - official word (fwd) > 10. Toxic Effect of Manganese... > 11. Pallidotomy > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 23:16:34 -0600 > From: Jeffrey Romanyshyn <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: <No subject given> > > >One of my patients just infromed me that he was fired as vice-president > >of a bank due to poor work performance. He and I both know that he was > >fired because he has PD. He contacted two attorneys who said that he > >would have trouble winning this case. I would like advice on how I can > >help him from someone who has experienced this or knows more about it > >than me. Thank you. > > i cannot really offer advice, just my sadness and outrage and some fear. i > am 27 with parkinson's. if this gentleman got fired, i worry fior myself > and other young PD patients, as well as older. i do have a close friend > who is a lawyer, so i will inquire. please keep the group posted on the > proceedings if possible. > > good luck. :) > > jeffrey romanyshyn > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 04:14:22 -0600 > From: Jeffrey Romanyshyn <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: pschological-mythical thoughts on illness > > this is a very interesting and extremely helpful group and i have enjoyed > reading the many threads of disscussion. i wish to share some thoughts > concerning parkinsons which may seem more suited to a > psychological-academic oriented listserv, but i feel others may find my > thoughts, if not directly helpful, at least interesting. > > since i haven't posted in a while, i will briefly re-introduce myself. i > am a 27yr old ph.d. student in depth psychology at pacifica graduate > institute in carpinteria, california. my previous degrees are: b.a. and > m.a. in history, and masters of humanities in humanities. > > i have parkinson's disease, currently affecting my left side. while > difficult to manage, it has also opened many avenues of creativity and > scholarly pursuits. i view my condition from a psycho-mythical perspective > as well as bio-chemical. i believe it to be very important to be in touch > with what archetype is touching you via the illness; as jungian scholar > james hillman says: "the gods have become our [modernity's] diseases". > > i recently wrote a paper titled: "trembling and dreaming with the divine: a > personal voyage of archetypal illness" in which i identified a > psycho-mythical metaphor for parkinson's. bio-chemically speaking, > parkinson's disease is the body's (the brain's) inability to produce > neuro-chemical messengers called dopamene. psycho-mythically speaking, > parkinson's is a wonded hermes, the divine messenger. > > i belive personally that one main reason why i manifest parkinson's is, > being very sensitive to the external environment and internal self, i > extert tremendous psychic energy trying to hear the subtle messages of > psyche through the artificial techno-noise of the modern world. hermes, > and other archetypes, have difficulty reaching us today. the only path > open for them to travel is what i call the "medusian labyrinth of > modernity". it is through this labyrinth that psychological wounds travel, > sometimes manifesting as bodily symptoms, as in my case. the only way > hermes could soulfully touch my psyche was to travel this labyrinth and > transfer the wound to me, manifest his messages bodily. > > i apologize for the length of this, but this is a big part of who i am, > thus i feel it belongs in a re-intro of myself. > > i look foreward to future helpful and stimulating discussions on this group. > > sincerely, > > jeffrey romanyshyn ([log in to unmask]) > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 14:48:01 +0100 > From: Maxine Cooper <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: SUGGESTIONS?????? > > I would love some help in dealing with my husband. He was diagnosed about > three years ago here in Austria and it was confirmed by doctors in > Philadelphia at the Graduate Hospital. Since then he has been under the > care of a neurologist here in Vienna although he has seen him only twice in > the last year and a half. Is this normal or do most patients see their > doctors more frequently? > Also, Bruce sometimes has a great deal of difficulty falling asleep - body > alive, as he phrases it. He drinks warm milk and honey, or excersises to > calm himself. Once asleep, his body is still alive - he knocks things off > of his nightstand, occasionally punches me, and even hits his own hand on > the nightstand. I sometimes have to sleep in another room when he becomes > too restless. Comments anyone? > His other problem is standing in one position - especially at cocktail > parties. He wears knee braces because his knees are shot (from sports and > now PD). > Also, before he was diagnosed, he was having a lot of difficulty with > reading - wandering eye. A super doctor in Wash DC/Chevy Chase, Md. , Dr > Alpere had him fitted with prism glasses which currently need a new > prescription. Does anyone else have this problem???? Does it get worse?? > Actually, I am quite nervous about our future - will it get worse, not at > all, slowly, quickly, etc > Thank God for his wonderful sense of humour- and quick wit. > Enough for now- ah yes, he takes Sinemet 25/100 about 2 and a half a day, > two eldypryl and one half Dopagin in the evening. > Thanks in advance for any comments. > > Maxine Cooper > [log in to unmask] > > Marcel Michiels > > Wirtschaftsuniversit=E4t Wien > International MBA Program > Augasse 2-6, 1090 Wien > Tel. 0043/1/31336/5312 > =46ax: 0043/1/31336/768 > E-Mail: [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:45:28 -0500 > From: Jace Leach <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS?????? > > I hhave almost all of the symptoms your husband has. My suggestions... > he should see his DDr. more often. He should decide when, not Dr. > > Heshould be taking more sinemet, mabe 10 times more. The symptoms may improve w > ith more medicstion but will not go away. If youar nervouse about your futur ew > ithhim stsrt makingplans. He will get worse,not better. He need a helpmate, n > ot a fretter. You arecvery lucky thst he is not a sitter andwhiner > > -- > > > TO: [log in to unmask] (Parkinson's Disease Info > Exchange Network > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 08:42:32 -0800 > From: Karin M Beros <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: your mail > > My husband simply retired from teaching once he became too weak to stand > before a class, or when the shaking became so much of a distraction that > he couldn't concentrate on lecturing. This may have been a capitulation, > but in retrospect it was the wisest thing we could have done, especially > since my job could substitute good income. This way we could concentrate > on him and his medical needs, and on achieving the best quality of life > possible under the circumstances. I have no way to help you, but add this > comment only for what it's worth. > > k. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Karin M. Beros, MSO [log in to unmask] > International and Area Studies voice: (510) 642-8542 > Office of the Dean, 260 Stephens Hall fax: (510) 642-9466 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Dr. Cheryl Waters wrote: > > > One of my patients just infromed me that he was fired as vice-president > > of a bank due to poor work performance. He and I both know that he was > > fired because he has PD. He contacted two attorneys who said that he > > would have trouble winning this case. I would like advice on how I can > > help him from someone who has experienced this or knows more about it > > than me. Thank you. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:46:49 -0700 > From: gavin longmuir <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS?????? > > My father has PD - quite advanced now after about 10 years from first > diagnosis. (He is now in his 70's and in residential care). Here are > some thoughts, based on my family's experiences: > > First, don't lose heart! There is tremendous variability in PD, and > individuals do experience quite different progressions. There is a lot > of help available (if you are persistent in seeking it). It may not be > as bad as you somtimes fear. > > Second, be realistic. PD is a progressive condition which generally gets > worse over time. In the early phases the impact on the quality of life > can be quite controllable; in the later phases, where my father is now, > the impact can be severe. If I had the opportunity to do it over again, > I would have spent a lot more effort on helping my father confront the > fact that, in his particular case, he was undergoing rapid deterioration, > and his options were rapidly narrowing. He definitely did not want to > think about this, and we took the easy way out by going along with him. > > Third, look after yourself. In my family's case, my mother almost became > co-dependent, and lied to herself constantly about my father's worsening > condition. This increased the stress on her enormously, and > unintentionally delayed my father getting proper treatment; irrational > behaviors on his part were brushed off as PD symptoms, instead of drawing > prompt medical attention. Keeping yourself mentally and physically > healthy is essential if you are to be able to help your husband. > > Keep your spirits up! > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 10:28:52 -0800 > From: Jane Metz <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: virus HOAX > > The Good Times virus is a HOAX. > > I am not an expert, but I have been told that you *cannot* get a virus from > reading e-mail. The attached advisory explains. > > Jane Metz, [log in to unmask] > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > U.S. DOE's Computer Incident Advisory Capability > > ___ __ __ _ ___ __ __ __ __ __ > > / | /_\ / |\ | / \ | |_ /_ > > \___ __|__ / \ \___ | \| \__/ | |__ __/ > > > >Number 94-04 December 6, 1994 > > > > ------------------- A - T - T - E - N - T - I - O - N ------------------- > >| CIAC is available 24-hours a day via its two skypage numbers. To use | > >| this service, dial 1-800-759-7243. The PIN numbers are: 8550070 (for | > >| the CIAC duty person) and 8550074 (for the CIAC manager). Please keep | > >| these numbers handy. | > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Welcome to the fourth issue of CIAC Notes! This is a special edition to > >clear up recent reports of a "good times" virus-hoax. Let us know if you > >have topics you would like addressed or have feedback on what is useful and > >what is not. Please contact the editor, Allan L. Van Lehn, CIAC, > >510-422-8193 or send E-mail to [log in to unmask] > > > > $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$ > > $ Reference to any specific commercial product does not necessarily $ > > $ constitute or imply its endorsement, recommendation or favoring by $ > > $ CIAC, the University of California, or the United States Government.$ > > $-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$-$ > > > >THE "Good Times" VIRUS IS AN URBAN LEGEND > > > >In the early part of December, CIAC started to receive information requests > >about a supposed "virus" which could be contracted via America OnLine, simply > >by reading a message. The following is the message that CIAC received: > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >| Here is some important information. Beware of a file called Goodtimes. | > >| | > >| Happy Chanukah everyone, and be careful out there. There is a virus on | > >| America Online being sent by E-Mail. If you get anything called "Good | > >| Times", DON'T read it or download it. It is a virus that will erase your | > >| hard drive. Forward this to all your friends. It may help them a lot. | > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >THIS IS A HOAX. Upon investigation, CIAC has determined that this message > >originated from both a user of America Online and a student at a university > >at approximately the same time, and it was meant to be a hoax. > > > >CIAC has also seen other variations of this hoax, the main one is that any > >electronic mail message with the subject line of "xxx-1" will infect your > >computer. > > > >This rumor has been spreading very widely. This spread is due mainly to the > >fact that many people have seen a message with "Good Times" in the header. > >They delete the message without reading it, thus believing that they have > >saved themselves from being attacked. These first-hand reports give a false > >sense of credibility to the alert message. > > > >There has been one confirmation of a person who received a message with > >"xxx-1" in the header, but an empty message body. Then, (in a panic, because > >he had heard the alert), he checked his PC for viruses (the first time he > >checked his machine in months) and found a pre-existing virus on his machine. > > He incorrectly came to the conclusion that the E-mail message gave him the > >virus (this particular virus could NOT POSSIBLY have spread via an E-mail > >message). This person then spread his alert. > > > >As of this date, there are no known viruses which can infect merely through > >reading a mail message. For a virus to spread some program must be executed. > >Reading a mail message does not execute the mail message. Yes, Trojans have > >been found as executable attachments to mail messages, the most notorious > >being the IBM VM Christmas Card Trojan of 1987, also the TERM MODULE Worm > >(reference CIAC Bulletin B-7) and the GAME2 MODULE Worm (CIAC Bulletin B-12). > > But this is not the case for this particular "virus" alert. > > > >If you encounter this message being distributed on any mailing lists, simply > >ignore it or send a follow-up message stating that this is a false rumor. > > > >Karyn Pichnarczyk > >CIAC Team > >[log in to unmask] > > > > > >------------------------------ > >This document was prepared as an account of work sponsored by an agency of > >the United States Government. Neither the United States Government nor the > >University of California nor any of their employees, makes any warranty, > >express or implied, or assumes any legal liability or responsibility for the > >accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any information, apparatus, product, > >or process disclosed, or represents that its use would not infringe privately > >owned rights. Reference herein to any specific commercial products, process, > >or service by trade name, trademark, manufacturer, or otherwise, does not > >necessarily constitute or imply its endorsement, recommendation or favoring > >by the United States Government or the University of California. The views > >and opinions of authors expressed herein do not necessarily state or reflect > >those of the United States Government or the University of California, and > >shall not be used for advertising or product endorsement purposes. > > > >------------------------------ > >End of CIAC Notes Number 94-04 94_12_06 > >**************************************** > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 13:30:16 +0500 > From: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Welcome (fwd) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 18:25:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Karin M Beros <[log in to unmask]> > To: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Welcome > > Dear Barbara: > > Thanks for writing. It's nice to find another University staffer with an > interest in Parkinsonism. I'm sorry it's your diagnosis, but I have to > say I'm optimistic about the advances made in understanding use of the > drugs. > > I am not the patient in our household. My husband is a retired professor > of Political Science/Public Administration, who retired early because of > his PD. We were diagnosed in 1984, just a decade ago. We first noticed > the problem because of a persistent weakness and slight right-leg > tremor. Sinemet made a great difference in energy levels and reducing > the shaking. We have been through over-dependence on Sinemet, to a > period now when my husband's neurologist is trying to reduce the Sinemet > and rely more heavily on Permax. The strategy seems to be working well > enough, because he has more consistent periods of being able to do things > without undue shaking, and before the stiffness of late evening takes over. > > A recent newletter spoke of potential legislation to establish a national > council for PD that might have the capacity to encourage more research > funding on PD. Are you aware of such efforts? Is that central > government involvement in research in Canada? > > Keep well. Thanks for writing. I appreciate hearing form you, and wish > you good luck. > > k. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Karin M. Beros, MSO [log in to unmask] > International and Area Studies voice: (510) 642-8542 > Office of the Dean, 260 Stephens Hall fax: (510) 642-9466 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 14:12:17 -0500 > From: Sid Roberts <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: test message > > Please forgive and ignore this test message. I sem to be having a problem > with my mailer. I sent three previous messages about dietary help for > people with PD as discussed in the Tuft's University Diet & Nutrition > Newsletter (vol 12 # 10, Dec. '94) but apparently my posts have been lost > in cyberspace. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 12:34:56 -0800 > From: Karin M Beros <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS?????? > > Dear Friend: > > Thank you for your words of encouragement. We are ten years agao from > diagnosis, and doing O.K. There are lots of bad times, but we both see > it as a new stage in our lives. It could have been me with a stroke, and > he would have looked after me. But happily both of us, maybe because > both of us had life-threatening problems (him with a heart attack, me > with a serious blood disorder) in the mid-eighties, so we're both living > on borrowed time, and enjoying it! It could have been worse. Everything > is relative, I guess. > > k. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Karin M. Beros, MSO [log in to unmask] > International and Area Studies voice: (510) 642-8542 > Office of the Dean, 260 Stephens Hall fax: (510) 642-9466 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 12:39:45 -0800 > From: Karin M Beros <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: test message > > Not lost to me. I got them all. > > k. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Karin M. Beros, MSO [log in to unmask] > International and Area Studies voice: (510) 642-8542 > Office of the Dean, 260 Stephens Hall fax: (510) 642-9466 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, 7 Dec 1994, Sid Roberts wrote: > > > Please forgive and ignore this test message. I sem to be having a problem > > with my mailer. I sent three previous messages about dietary help for > > people with PD as discussed in the Tuft's University Diet & Nutrition > > Newsletter (vol 12 # 10, Dec. '94) but apparently my posts have been lost > > in cyberspace. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 15:59:17 -0500 > From: NeuroScience Center at TMH <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Low Protein Drink > > Twin Labs is a company that has many powder products, available at > General Nutrition Center stores. I was there yesterday and asked what > they had that was high in carbohydrates and low in protein. > ULTRA FUEL is a powder for an orange flavored drink with 0 Protein and > lots of carbohydrates. This may be a suitable drink, as far as not > interefering with Sinemet. I didn't look at all of the nutritional > information closely, but I know these types of products are loaded with > good vitamins. > > If you go looking for this be sure to ask for ULTRA FUEL. Other products > with similar names come in similar containers but are not low-protein > powders (Opti Fuel, Gainer's Fuel, etc.). > > Chris @8) > > The NeuroScience Center [log in to unmask] > at Tallahassee Memorial (904) 681-5037 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 16:03:53 +0500 > From: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Welcome (fwd) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 08:39:07 -0800 (PST) > From: Karin M Beros <[log in to unmask]> > To: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Welcome > > Dear Barbara: > > Thanks for your welcome, and your note. Much of what I saw yesterday was > interesting. I'm not sure what the volume will be. My own university > work brings in about 25 messages a day, so I want to limit transmissions, > but I do want to see and learn about the experiences of others. If the > start-up material that arrived yesterday I saw a means of consolidating > all messages into a single collection. I could print this single message > and read it later. > > I'm glad if you want to send my message to others. I will not write > anything in this forum that I would be unwilling for others with > Parkinson experiences to see, so please use your own judgment about > this. In fact, unless others know about us, they may not have anything > to say that would be relevant for us. You are the best arbiter for all, > because it's too easy to clutter the mail with unnecessary comment. > > Thanks very much for the introduction, and for the opportunity to > participate. There's not much for me to add, I think, that would be > useful for others, except that I believe my husband, and therefore me > too, have gone beyond the depression and denial stage, and therefore live > better, though the disease itself continue to progress ever so slowly. > With the help of an attentive neurologist, I believe we are maximizing > the benefit from the medications (should I give you a run-down on > these?), but that there are always bad spots in every day. We both have > a good sense of humor, and that always makes everything better. > > Recently my husband was invited by his neurologist to make himself > available for a brief lecture and questions from students in a Master's > of Public Health program associated with the UC San Francisco Medical > School. We enjoyed the experience, and the questions. I was struck by > the dismay, sympathy, and even horror in the eyes of these young > students, mostly in their early twenties. It's hard to see ourselves as > others see us. We sometimes look like a couple of drunken bums when we > walk out in the evenings, because I tried to hold my husband up when he > falls, and we have the picking up part down to a science. On the other > hand, there are many people who understand immediately and help, not that > we expect it. There is an amazing wellspring of sympathy there, except > that we don't need or want the sympathy. With sympathy often comes a > kind of distancing. That's the thing we don't want. But it's well > intentioned, and we really DO appreciate the understanding, and when > people fear the falls might be a prelude to fainting or heart attack, we > explain it's just Mister Parkinson up to his old tricks. No harm in > educating the public! > > The sad thing is that it does limit our activity, but that really isn't > very important, as long as we choose carefully what we can do and do it > together. > > Best to you, and thanks for including us. > > k. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mrs. Karin M. Beros, MSO [log in to unmask] > International and Area Studies voice: (510) 642-8542 > Office of the Dean, 260 Stephens Hall fax: (510) 642-9466 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Tue, 6 Dec 1994, Barbara Patterson wrote: > > > Hi, Karin: Would you like me to forward your message to the list or would > > you prefer (or not) to send one on your own. I am sure you and your > > husband will find the conversation on this list useful. I know I have. > > Barb > > ============================================================================ > > Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] > > HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 > > School of Nursing > > ============================================================================ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 16:27:34 +0500 > From: Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: INTERNET mail "virus" a hoax - official word (fwd) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: 7 Dec 94 08:40:34 CST > From: [log in to unmask] > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: INTERNET mail "virus" a hoax - official word > > Barbara, > > Since I read the message on the Parkinsons list about a virus > that could erase your hard drive, I thought I would forward this to > you. This message is from another list I subscribe to: > > Jennifer [log in to unmask] > _______________________________________ > > There have been several messages about the "Internet Virus" (attempted > to be) sent to FINAID-L. Because they contained syntactic errors AND > BECAUSE of the following posting, I have not returned those "bounced" > messages to the sender for followup delivery to FINAID-L. > > I suggest that further discussion of "Virus Alert" take place on a > virus-related list. > > -- co-owner INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L > [log in to unmask] "Let them get their own mailing list" +1 814 863 1843 > 31 Shields Bldg. -- Penn State Univ -- University Park, PA 16802-1202 USA > > - - The original note follows - - > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 12:48:21 +0000 > Reply-To: LISTSERV list owners' forum <[log in to unmask]> > From: Edis Bevan <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: INTERNET mail "virus" a hoax - official word > To: Multiple recipients of list LSTOWN-L <LSTOWN-L@SEARN> > > I chased this up with the virus watch guru on my site and he forwarded > this bulletin from CIAC. I though it would be valuable for other > list owners > Edis Bevan > > ------------------- A - T - T - E - N - T - I - O - N ------------------- > > THE "Good Times" VIRUS IS AN URBAN LEGEND > > In the early part of December, CIAC started to receive information requests > about a supposed "virus" which could be contracted via America OnLine, simply > by reading a message. The following is the message that CIAC received: > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Here is some important information. Beware of a file called Goodtimes. | > | | > | Happy Chanukah everyone, and be careful out there. There is a virus on | > | America Online being sent by E-Mail. If you get anything called "Good | > | Times", DON'T read it or download it. It is a virus that will erase your | > | hard drive. Forward this to all your friends. It may help them a lot. | > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > THIS IS A HOAX. Upon investigation, CIAC has determined that this message > originated from both a user of America Online and a student at a university > at approximately the same time, and it was meant to be a hoax. > > CIAC has also seen other variations of this hoax, the main one is that any > electronic mail message with the subject line of "xxx-1" will infect your > computer. > > This rumor has been spreading very widely. This spread is due mainly to the > fact that many people have seen a message with "Good Times" in the header. > > They delete the message without reading it, thus believing that they have > saved themselves from being attacked. These first-hand reports give a false > sense of credibility to the alert message. > > There has been one confirmation of a person who received a message with > "xxx-1" in the header, but an empty message body. Then, (in a panic, because > he had heard the alert), he checked his PC for viruses (the first time he > checked his machine in months) and found a pre-existing virus on his machine. > He incorrectly came to the conclusion that the E-mail message gave him the > virus (this particular virus could NOT POSSIBLY have spread via an E-mail > message). This person then spread his alert. > > As of this date, there are no known viruses which can infect merely through > reading a mail message. For a virus to spread some program must be executed. > Reading a mail message does not execute the mail message. Yes, Trojans have > been found as executable attachments to mail messages, the most notorious > being the IBM VM Christmas Card Trojan of 1987, also the TERM MODULE Worm > (reference CIAC Bulletin B-7) and the GAME2 MODULE Worm (CIAC Bulletin B-12). > But this is not the case for this particular "virus" alert. > > If you encounter this message being distributed on any mailing lists, simply > ignore it or send a follow-up message stating that this is a false rumor. > > Karyn Pichnarczyk > CIAC Team > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 19:47:51 -0500 > From: Paul Potter <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Toxic Effect of Manganese... > > Hi, > To your message about the toxic effect of Manganese, there is mention of it > in the literature. I think I noticed it in early Adel Davis books, and there > is mention in the 1973 book by Henry Schroeder, titled The Trace Elements and > Man. > I seem to remember in a current run-through of Medline there being a > reference to Manganese. > My husband used to paint primer on the inside of airplane wings with zinc > chromate. This was years ago when they didn't use many safety features. I > have found references to zinc and copper but not zinc chromate. > Hope this is of some help. > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 20:06:09 -0500 > From: Jo Ann Klein <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Welcome (fwd) > > Greetings! > > My name is Jo Ann Klein and I'm a registered nurse with 17 years > experience in the hospital, home health, hospice, occupational > health, HMO, and public health arenas. More than a year and a > half ago, I developed the Nursing Network Forum, a one stop > professional mall for nurses which is currently housed on the > Delphi Internet Services Network. > > I am interested in this group because I would like to gather and > share any information which will help nurses provide better care > to our patients. In return, I would like to hear your thoughts > on the care you receive by members of my profession. > > I look forward to my participation in this group. > > Jo Ann Klein, RN, BSN > Sysop of the Nursing Network Forum on Delphi > [log in to unmask] > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 22:45:52 -0600 > From: Keith A Scheider <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Pallidotomy > > Hi - I'm glad I found all of you. I have been looking for discussion > group like this for PD for quite some time. > > My mother was diagnosed with PD sixteen years > ago at the age of 42. She is now on realtively high doses of medication > (12 sinimet per day) and suffers from severe dyskinesia just prior to > bed. On our last visit to the neurologist he suggested a pallidotomy. > This was the first we had heard of the procedure. > > I'd appreciate hearing any comments you have about this procedure. This > may be a repeat discussion for some of you but please forgive me > I'm new to the group. > > Thanks. > > Keith Scheider > [log in to unmask] > > ------------------------------ > > End of PARKINSN Digest - 6 Dec 1994 to 7 Dec 1994 > ************************************************* >