Phyllis--you asked me about my reasons for objecting to Competency Tests. In my opinion, these tests are incompatible with a view of writing as a social act. Writing involves a search for knowledge, wisdom, truth, through dialogue: dialogue with the self; dialogue with professors and fellow students; dialogue with a wider social audience. The university cannot encourage or foster that kind of dialogue when students are designated as "good writers" or "bad writers"--numbered 1, 2, 3, 4. These tests are based on a competitive, individualistic view of writing. They imply that once individuals reach the level of "good writers", they have arrived. They can then get on with the more important task of gathering information. The "bad" writers must keep writing--as penance? You also asked about my problems with the logistics of deciding what constitutes a WI course. I guess I see it as a necessary evil. But I can envision some people focusing entirely on issues like these: how many words, how many essays, how many research projects, what percentage of the grade, etc etc . There are so many ways of using writing,varying from prof to prof and discipline to discipline. How can we put these into a formula? Any ideas out there on this subject? I am meeting first with the whole Senate, then with a committee of Senate. Thanks for starting this conversation. I too have been more of an email "lurker." Maybe we aren't lurkers any more! Best wishes. Roberta