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Thanks for the warm welcome, Barb. I'm 48, diagnosed at 42. Would apppreciate discussion/advice about insomnia. I've been awake for 5 years and have the a.m. infomercials pretty well memorized. Want to go to sleep now. Have done the hospital sleep disorder centers, polysomnography, deep relaxation, meditation and lots of pills. I've learned a lot about technique but the results aren't satisfactory yet. Will swap fishing advice (guaranteed to catch) for insomnia cure (also guaranteed). Show me insomnia cure first. Bob Robert D. Bowling <[log in to unmask]>