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----Wendy Tebay said: (regarding magnetic fields) > me to be a useful/effective therapy, and I personally feel reducing one's emf > exposure, rather than adding to it, to be prudent. Years ago people in Russia Wendy, Thank you for the information on the holistic e-mail list. I was not aware of this discussion going on. I would like to make it clear that a magnetic field generated from a permanent magnet has some properties that are different from an EMF field. Applying a magnetic field is not increasing one's exposure to an EMF. A magnetic field generated from a permanent magnet is static, it is in a stable, balanced state. A similar field could be generated by a constant Direct Current (DC) conducted through a wire. I believe some therapeutic devices exist that use a pulsed DC magnetic field. The magnetic field generated from this means would always maintain the same polarity field, but the field strength would shift from an on state to an off state and so on and so forth. An EMF (electro-magnetic field) on the other hand is an unstable magnetic field which cycles from negative polarity to positive polarity and back repeatedly. An EMF is generated by an alternating current (AC). Allow me to make some hypothetical assumptions: The pineal gland is found to be responsive to magnetic fields. Assuming that everything in our body responds/functions in a certain way for a specific purpose, why would this hormone producing gland respond to a magnetic field? And if it does respond to magnetic fields how would it be affected by a magnetic field in the natural environment? Well the earth has a magnetic field. The earth's magnetic field is of the DC variety, it is not an EMF. Lets assume the pineal gland was designed to respond to the earths magnetic field (remember this is just my rambling theorizing) the stable, DC type of field (for what purpose I could not guess, although one function of the gland is the production of melatonin). What would be its response when exposed to a shifting EMF, AC type of magnetic field? How many DC appliances work properly when you plug them into an AC power source? Now, are there possible harmful effects that can be found from exposing one's self to a permanent magnetic field? In the short term I guess there must be no harm since MRI machines utilize strong magnetic fields. What are potential long term affects? I have been sleeping on a mattress and pillow which have magnets in them for about 4 1/2 years now. I personally have not found any ill affects to date. If there is any long term hazards I'll let you know in 20 years. One difference I have found is that my body must be becoming conditioned to the field. Before being introduced to the mattress I would normally sleep about 8 hours a night. Sleeping on the magnetic mattress I found that I was fully rested in about 6 1/2 hours. This was an initial concern of mine since I thought that I had to have 8 hours of sleep. Now, I find my sleeping time increasing so that it is closer to 8 hours again. Another difference I personally have found is that my frequency of dreams (or at least those that I can remember) is decreased. When I go to sleep, I am sound asleep until I awake. I do however have an occational restless night but I attribute it more to having something on my mind that I cannot stop thinking about. These are my own experiences. I know of others that have experienced similar results. And, I know of others that have noticed no such results. Why the difference I have no idea. I have noticed that people with lower blood pressure seem to be less receptive to feeling anything when lying on the mattress. Others will lie on the mattress and tell about feeling a tingling sensation over their body (this is my reaction to lying on the mattress) Anyway, this is enough on the subject and unless there are specific questions raised which I can answer I'm through with this discussion. All the best, jim ______________________________________________________________ Jim Clements email: [log in to unmask] Total Health Marketing ph. 801/553-8716 fax 801/553-1606 Nikken Independent Distributors http://www.xmission.com/~total/health.html