AAGH!(That was a primal scream) I am getting the run-around in my efforts to get some clear administrative commitment to WAC. I need some hard evidence. I understand that at the Univ. of Toronto, Simon Fraser, and Laurentian leadership for WAC comes from the Writing Centre. Am I correct? Are there other universities out there that have a similar set-up? I am proposing an official WAC committee, chaired by the supervisor of the Writing Lab, composed of 5 representative(interested, committed) faculty members, plus Writing Lab instructors, reporting directly to the academic vice- president. Any comments on that plan? This group would reconsider what constitutes a writing intensive course, designate writing intensive courses(in consultation with faculty desiring to teach these courses), and plan writing workshops for faculty. Writing Lab instructors will continue doing what they have been doing: one-on-one (non-remedial) appointments with students, consulting with faculty, leading workshops, hopefully teaching an upper level comp course,etc. After months of reports, meetings, consultations we seem to be worse off that we were when we started, because we have called attention to ourselves and therefore opened ourselves to criticism(the goal of which, I believe, is to justify not coming up with any MONEY). AAGH! Roberta Lee