When including the message you are replying to, please delete the header information. The listserver reads 'To: parkinsn' in the body of the message and thinks it has found a 'looping' message. It then sends the message to me as an error message. To avoid this, please do not include the header information from the previous message in your message. Now for the not-list-related. If there are any members of the list who are located in Michigan, near St. Joseph, please email me off the list. Barb