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Great info John! Thanks! Wendy Tebay P.S. I'm back in action, for anyone interested, at my home computer now - [log in to unmask] and as soon as I get organized, I also have some good, positive info (1. like how Chinese medicine via acupuncture and herbs can reduce one's need for drugs at a minimum and at max can halt the progression altogether. This info was obtained from an article in a chinese medical journal and I'll paraphrase it soon. 2. Dr. Atkins in NYC who practices Complementary Medicine (alternative and conventional blend) has in his latest newsletter info on a supplement to begin FDA testing this summer. This supplement (some coenzyme) has been very successful in either Germany/Austria in studies by improving condition of those with pd and halting/slowing the progress. 3. more later...) and some controversial info to share too (1. info on pesticides and drugs that I've downloaded - it's sobering stuff; 2. an article in Science News about how dioxin (a common industrial by-product) can go into our bodies, and since we have receptors which welcome it, alter our DNA (so much for defining the human genome - is it done before or after dioxin alters our DNA? Has anyone considered this factor?); and 3. a story from a doctor, who was a former physicist and now M.D. (ooccupational & environmental health), who feels that many of the existing technologies (PET scans, etc.) could be applied to more diagnostic situations than they are currently. He uses these technologies to help him in diagnosing MCS - Multiple Chemical Sensitivity, which is a syndrome discounted by some, but very plausible in some cases from my viewpoint, considering all the toxins around us. People exposed to various chemicals, esp. without proper precautions, can end up with many vague to obvious neurological symptoms (as vague as depression and sensory hallucinations and as obvious as pd-like symptoms). He images various parts of the brain and can show exactly where and how the disfunction is happening. He describes a 15 year old girl who ends up with off and on pd symptoms, triggered by certain smells, after having been exposed to some sort of injection roofing insulation which is toxic to someone not properly suited up.). So, I'm ready to stir up the pot here again soon, which I love doing! However, I can't resist entirely starting a bit now. What about these thoughts... PD is not the enemy, nor are our supposedly deficient genes. The "enemy" is what we're doing to the environment and how it's subsequently affecting our health!! I want more than just a relief of my symptoms or a halting of its progression, and I don't want to change my brain nor my genes, I want to eliminate as much of the source of the problem as I can. I'M NOT THE PROBLEM (except perhaps as I help contribute to pollution, etc.), biodiversity and genetic diversity are natural phenomena which ensure survival of the species, but with the environmental problems we've caused, our stressful lifestyles and bad diets, etc., we've created a world that evolution did not prepare us for. Why should we change ourselves chemcially via drugs and genetically and still leave whatever's causing all of this out in the environment to affect our kids down the line and other forms of life too. Would someone fund the cost of a program to also protect the wildlife and our food sources (both animal and plant) from genetic changes and disease too, or are we the only ones important here? How's that for controversy! I know the scope of this list is pd and not the environment per se, but if we really want to eradicate this disease, at the same time we're helping those who already need it, we could also be figuring out to prevent it, either by bolstering our abilitiies to withstand these toxins, or eliminate/reduce the toxins. (Esp. in an era of budget cuts we need to join resources with the EPA and related organizations who also do their own research into environmental health issues. This would make availble more talent and communication between related research subject areas and help eliminate duplicate studies.) Only helping ourselves by improving our personal ability to resist toxic effects, doesn't necessarily help our children resist them, especially cause left unchecked, the toxicity and prevalence of these factors will only grow. I also believe it's selfish to only consider the human effects, i.e., as long as we can protect ourselves with our high tech treatments, to hell with the rest of earth's life, we'll just leave the poisons there and keep creating more. Since we've learned how to protect ourselves that's all that counts. See ya'll!. I think I'll give it a break for now and see what trouble I've started.... (don't worry, I'm not always this extreme, but someone's gotta do it Besides, I've been quiet for a while due to a changing of accounts and computers! I want those with the right backgrounds, whether medical or political, to take all this info and discussion and go do SOMETHING with it I view my role as instigator and provider of info, and once the pot is stirred up & boiling, I'll go back into the pd "slow lane" and let everyone else go to town!) *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* And as to our acceptance of this whole stupid situation in which we find ourselves: "Do not go gentle into that good night. Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good nigiht. Good men (ed. people), the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light. Wild men (people) who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night. Grave (wo)men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the lighit. And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray, Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light." Dylan Thomas