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Dear Llyn: Many, many thanks for the full explanation. I will show your remarks to my husband, who may then be encouraged to try it. At least I can see from you writing that it won't hurt him! k. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mrs. Karin M. Beros, MSO [log in to unmask] International and Area Studies voice: (510) 642-8542 Office of the Dean, 260 Stephens Hall fax: (510) 642-9466 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------