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Sand Rodent ..........reporting on the scene and (barely) live from Phx " ... & they laffed when I sat down to play at the piano :" well, folks, I felt like the hackneyed IBM salesman of the old and battered jokes at our local Young Parkies meeting last night sitting there telling all the lil non-NET-connected how good it was surely going to be NEXT time when I finally got my system up and running. At our local meeting this month I was booked to spin a little webcraft for the folks and show them where the Parkie hood was out on the net, how to access archives, find Elvis Costello's home page .... you know, all the important stuff. After about 90 minutes of talking about e-mail, newsgroups, homepages and the entire gestalt of NET and all this entire time trying to get a 28.8 modem to talk to an entirely digital phone system in a large office complex (duh ....... earth to RAT, take a clue ....... modulator/DEmodulator) some of the folks finally bolted for the door. Trouble is you never know with Parkies - are they just that damn polite or does it take that long for the drugs to kick in?? Muchos thanks to my electronic wingman and newbie to this list, Ron Kessinger, also of Phx (welcome Ron!) for the support and the help. and also to the ever lovely and positively scintillating Sue D. Monas (also of Phx) for not laffing and making up Bevis and Butthead jokes about what do you get when you cross a Parkie and a Programmer (a twisted pair?) all the way home. Next time ... next time ... regards, the RAT also, warm welcome and such to Nancy Elliston, our new local Parkinson's organization President who a) suffered thru the debacle and b) as a NET newbie herself has not navigated her way thru all the chutes and turns yet to get SUBSCRIBE'd to this fine fine group .... so, might I suggest when you see NEELLISTON post a "hi, I'm new to the list" message in a day or two you all send her a flaming "HI! WELCOME!! AND WHY'D IT TAKE YOU SO LONG??" and blow her C:drive right out the side of her machine.