Russ - My 1984 Random; House Dictionary lists "wimp" the same as your dictionary but goes on |to state that it is from Wimpy, a character in Popeye who was apparently "a passive, ineffective, often self-pitying person" The rest of that stuff I won't comment on. Barb. On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, Russ Hunt wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 19:19:51 AST > From: Russ Hunt <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: WIMPs > > Rick, it's not a guy thing any more. Neither is guy, if it comes to > that ("hey, you guys!" hasn't been gendered since early on in Sesame > Street) > > > When did it become commonplace to apply the word WIMP to women? > > My sense is about ten or fifteen years ago--that before that mostly > > only men were called wimps. > > I didn't notice it until a _lot_ more recently than that. But other > trans-gendering of gender-specific words ("Bitch," for instance; > "slut" probably goes back to Bill Murray in the film, can't remember > the name, where Dustin Hoffman played a woman) has been going on > about that long, so I may have just missed it. But here's an > interesting fact: neither my old 7th new Collegiate (1963) nor my New > World (1964) list "wimp" _at all_. My _new_ New World, however > (1968), lists it without any sense of gender: "a weak, ineffectual, or > insipid person." No etymology offered. > > I'm doubtful of the "wimple" derivation, because "wimp" didn't come > into currency until _long_ after anyone saw or talked about wimples. > (And what about "rung upon the rein of a wimpling wing in his > ecstasy"? Was Hopkins just faking it, there?) > > Anybody got a good slang dictionary to hand? > > -- Russ > __|~_ > Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ HOMEPAGE: www.StThomasU > Department of English )_ __)_|_)__ __) .ca/Faculty/hunt.htm > St. Thomas University | )____) | EMAIL: [log in to unmask] > Fredericton, New Brunswick___|____|____|____/ FAX: (506) 450-9615 > E3B 5G3 CANADA \ / PHONE: (506) 363-3891 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >