Rick, like you, I was more offended by the initial "we" than by the last remarks (or at least as offended); in fact, that initial "we" is the more dangerous precisely because it was not what drew fire in Quebec. I have heard Monique Simard speak in precisely this same way, as well as various other public figures of significant standing. It also happens to be true that this "we-ness" does, in other circumstances, allow for a vibrant nationalism -- not only of its own but in the others it excludes. I think, because I know it best, of the very vibrant jewish life of Montreal, which continues to this day, and has remained vital because of its exclusion: it its true that this exclusion was from Westmount Anglo society as well (the signs that Richler noted as an adolescent were "no dogs or jews allowed), but there has always been a difference in the intensity and degree; Jews were allowed to attend, if not to teach at, the Protestant SChool Board. (Perhaps some of you don't know that all the schools in Quebec, that is, all the public schools, were religiously affiliated.) It was Le Devoir that supported the strike of (mainly) French-Canadian doctors at the Hotel Dieu hospital in MOntreal when a Jewish intern was hired -- in the 30's. ETc. As to the constitutional question, the answer -- as far as it can be determined at this point -- is that Quebec cannot separate. There are no provisions for secession in anything that Quebec has or has not signed. But, in the end, they can put forward a Unilateral Declaration of Independence, and somehow I don't think that we will send in the militia. (What militia? Maybe we could reconstitutue the Airborne.) The real political problem would have related to the aboriginal people: and that is why they kept pressing for an answer before the referendum. They wanted an assurance from Canada that we would protect their borders -- i.e. that we would ensure that they -- and the great tracts of land (including the Quebec hydro project) they own would remain part of Canada. That is where the pressure to use some kind of force -- or at least to resort to some international body -- would come. I'm so thankful we have been spared that. ANthony, one more comment. I don't know what the rally in Montreal did in terms of the vote (although it is interesting that the eastern portions of the city were less "oui" than had been expected), but the spontaneous outpouring of feeling did, I believe, cement the rest of Canada together far more strongly than I have ever felt expressed before. I wonder if CASLLers from the rest of Canada felt that too. Aviva