Patricia Yothers said ---- Someone help me here, I also, as you so aptly put it "scarfed down the Demoral" when I had Gall Stone surgery. Several months later I started having Parkinson symptoms and eventually a diagnosis. Is Demoral dangerous only if you are taking PD medications or is it dangerous if you're a prospective Parkinson's person? I'm wondering if there was a connection between the anesthetic and pain relievers during surgery and the PD. Edwin Partridge replies ---- I have a similar history. I had surgery for a hernia, with related complications, which was extremely painful. In the hospital they gave me shots of demerol. During my recovery, a severe hyperthyroid condition developed. Several months later, Parkinsonian symptoms developed, and then I was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. I was devastated. I asked the neurologist, why is all of this happening to me at this time? She said that it is common for Parkinson's disease to appear soon after an extreme trauma, such as an automobile accident, or similar injurious event. And so, also, I would like to point out, after demerol has been used as a pain killer in the hospital! In the third edition of `Parkinson's Disease - A Guide for Patient and Family', written by Roger C. Duvoison, MD, on page 163, the drug MPTP is said to be "closely related to meperidine (demerol)." MPTP is sometimes a by-product when illicit drugs are prepared, especially if the reaction is run at too high a temperature. MPTP is, of course, the drug which produces Parkinson-like conditions in drug addicts, and also in monkeys in the laboratory. I advise everyone to stay away from demerol, especially anyone who already has symptoms of Parkinson's disease. That is hard to do, because it is used so widely as a pain-killer. From: [log in to unmask] In addition, consider the following message which appeared on prodigy: Board: MEDICAL SUPPORT BB Topic: NEUROLOGICAL Subject: PD-DEMEROL To: WKSP90A EDWIN PARTRIDGE Date: 01/06 From: MXWW92A BEV STEWARD Time: 8:55 PM In March 1985 I read in the New England Journal of Med. a letter to the Editor by Abraham N.Lieberman, MD and PD neurologist, about a patient he had that developed severe reversible Parkinson's which the doctor attributed to the use of Meperidine or Demerol. He then concluded that it was possible that some of the transient worsening that patients with PD experience after surgery may be due to use of this medication for post-operative pain. Because I had noted many cases of post-operative relapses in Parkinsonians I decided to avoid this drug. Then in 1989, since Eldepryl (MAO inhibitor) came on the market, Demerol has definitely been declared a "no-no" in combination with eldepryl. The PDR says: "Therapeutic doses of meperidine have occasionally fatal reactions in patients who have received such agents (MAO's) within 14 days." So I feel that it is not worth taking any chances. especially when there are other drugs that will do the pain relieving just as well. Bev * SLMR 2.1a * McLean Virginia USA Mon 01-08-96 12:08 am --- * KMail 3.00y