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I just had the listserver change my address to a new network I subscribed to. Thanks to the comments on best internet access options (particularly comments by Roger Wehling) I have found a new local Internet Service Provider where I live (jade.net from Eau Claire, WI) with much more liberal hours (150 per month). I'm paying the same as I did on delphi.com but won't have any more big bills from using more than the 20 hours I was allocated free. Larry Glenn [log in to unmask]