Roger, I would be interested in presenting something brief at a session that offered a critical perspective on "writing in the disciplines." I suppose the relevant spin is the reflection on, as well as questioning the "just"ness or justice of certain kinds of writing in the disciplines. (To this point, I have tended to look at the classes I have been observing with a kind of awe at the complexity of what has been achieved, and really marvelling at what students have learned. ANd I still think we have to start by looking at what is really going on -- and not just walking in and saying, "that's not how we do things in ENglish." Having said that, though, it seems to me that there is room and time, after, to distinguish among the discipoinary scenes we view, and to point to areas of lack of justness, when they just teach and just write. ANyone else? Aviva