Susan says, substantiating Aviva's fear that none of us has any idea what's going on anyplace else . . > The standard undergraduate BA/BSc degree in the Maritimes is > still, I believe, a "three-year" one after entrance from Grade > Twelve, that is, one that requires fifteen units or credits (two > semester courses with two-three contact hours per week, excluding > labs, for twelve or thirteen weeks per semester). Professional > degrees (at least at my university) are twenty-units (Business > admin, Human Ecology, public relations, tourism and hospitality > management, child and youth study) Nope. Not in New Brunswick. No such thing as a three-year degree here. I didn't have any idea it was standard in NS, either -- my daughter's in a four-year degree at Dal (at least I _think_ she is; it didn't occur to me to think she might be graduating next spring. Maybe I'd better check with her). > Still on the books is a twenty-unit BA/BSc for students entering > after Grade eleven (junior matriculation). Almost no one comes > straight to university from grade eleven any more, though there are > some (the only one I recall in recent years was a very bright army > brat who'd moved around a great deal, didn't want to try a new high > school for one year, and came here instead, to start a BA. Is what actually happens (say, in my daughter's case) that New Brunswick students are _treated_ as though they were junior matriculation? I don't believe anybody suggested to Amelia that one advantage of going to Nova Scotia was that she could get a BA in three years . . . > We also now have twenty-unit BA/BSc degrees after grade twelve, on > the principle that fifteen units isn't enough scope really to learn > some electives). Hm. Maybe it was just because it never occurred to us. > There is some talk of universities going to twenty-unit degrees > only (Acadia, perhaps?): it's a way of holding onto enrolment, I > suppose. I'm not quite sure why students would take a twenty-unit > "ordinary" degree rather than a twenty-unit "honours" degree, > except that it allows them to broaden as well and deepen their > knowledge. There's no question of "admission" to a four-year honours program, or of differing postgraduate potential? Here, an "honours" degree and and ordinary degree look exactly the same except for the designation, which I assume (probably wrongly) has some impact on employment and postgraduate program possibilities. > For example, students are beginning to take the 20-unit degree > before getting into the BEd programme (now a two-year post > baccalaureate degree). This is all amazing to me. You mean there were students who could get into the BEd programme in Nova Scotia after a three-year BA? > Aviva's right: there's considerable variation! And, I can attest to this, considerable levels of ignorance . . . -- Russ __|~_ Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Department of English St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 363-3891 Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] \ / ~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/hunt/hunt.htm ~~~~~~~~