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Jim, I just got back into town last night and have been catching up on my mail this morning. I was elated to find that FORUM II was a success, but sorry I couldn't join you because of family obligations. Has anyone had any contact with Ashcroft and Bond? I plan to make appointments with them during the summer recess when they're back in town. We've sent many letters and visited with their assistants, but so far haven't gotten much except sympathy and a non-committal response. I don't plan to give up, but could use some updated materials, especially the figures on care vs. cure. My address is: Pat Schark 743 Obrecht Lane O'Fallon, MO 63366 Thanks. Pat pine`