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Correct w.r.t. madhaus. It gets its time from ntp.on.canet.ca. In addition it has the multicast option turned on. So if your machine has multicast support, and you are connected directly to the campus backbone you can configure the xntp daemon the listen to the chimes. See: http://madhaus.utcs.utoronto.ca/info/campus.html On a somewhat related multicast note, how many of you have users that are interested in the MBONE? I have a test router configured on the backbone that should allow any machine (assuming your kernel supports multicast) which is on a stub network (directly attacher to one of the campus backbone routers). What I need are a few volunteers to see if the campus wide MBONE connectivity is actually working. (My few tests indicate that it is).