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Hi everybody, Sorry for interrupting the summer, but I was struck bu this when reading today: In York Play XLIV, The Death of the Virgin, two Jews ask Mary to intercede for them because 'thou arte curtaise and comen of oure kynde'. I was struck by the phrase and wondered how much awareness was there of the Jewishness of Mary and Jesus in the late Middle Ages? A further question ensued: the Jews don't ask to convert to Christianity, but Mary intercedes for them anyway. The creeds (the Athanasian Creed in particular) state very specifically that salvation is not possible outside the Church. Was this an absolute? Thanks, Le gach dea-ghui Tony Corbett English Department University College Cork Le gach dea-ghui Tony Corbett Department of English University College Cork Eire