I would assume that the commentator on the historical sense of scripture, Nicholas of Lyra , would be very much aware of Mary's Jewishness. Also the NT genealogies trace Mary's and Joseph's families to OT figures. The Marian plays in the N-Town cycle reproduce Jewish ritual in some detail. Mary is clearly a Jew there, as she is when she and Joseph offer the doves at the Purification/Presentation. Larry Clopper On Sat, 17 Aug 1996, Tony and =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sin=E9ad?= Corbett wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Sorry for interrupting the summer, but I was struck bu this when reading today: > > > In York Play XLIV, The Death of the Virgin, two Jews ask Mary to intercede > for them because 'thou arte curtaise and comen of oure kynde'. I was struck > by the phrase and wondered how much awareness was there of the Jewishness of > Mary and Jesus in the late Middle Ages? > > A further question ensued: the Jews don't ask to convert to Christianity, > but Mary intercedes for them anyway. The creeds (the Athanasian Creed in > particular) state very specifically that salvation is not possible outside > the Church. Was this an absolute? > > Thanks, > > > Le gach dea-ghui > > Tony Corbett > English Department > University College > Cork > > > Le gach dea-ghui > > > Tony Corbett > Department of English > University College > Cork > Eire >