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Dear David: Thanks for your letter. I realize not everyone feels the same way about meds and I also realize people don't always suffer terrible immediate side effects as has been my experience with my own mother. She is a diabetic who has had bypass surgery, was on meds for heart, blood pressure, diabetes, gout, thyroid, etc. The side effects weren't really too bad with her for several years...til her kidneys failed, which the Doctors told us was no doubt due to a couple of her medicines. She is now on dialysis 3x week and has lots of problems with it; That's one reason I started researching so closely, that and the fact that my daughter was dx with fibromyalgia. All in all, that's when I started reading about meds and looking into health food supplements (I'm not a fanatic-still eat my Twinkies, etc!). Fortunately, through all this, my mother has been able to get off her meds for gout & blood pressure, and lower her dosage for thyroid. My daughter is now feeling great, as are friends with M.S., Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, & Lupus. I don't claim to have all the answers...but am always reading trying to find what's best for those I'm concerned about...which is all people! That's why I'm on this forum..I have an elderly friend with Parkinson's whom I love dearly and am trying to help in every way I can. Thanks for the kind words. Dianne At 08:38 PM 9/26/96 -0400, you wrote: >Dear Dianne; > > >Well, this IS a forum for a multitude of opinions and attitudes and >views. :-) All voices are valuable. So please don't hesitate to >relay to all of us that which you've read. And thank you for citing correctly, too. > >"Baloney" is a great, healthy word when another reader or two doesn't agree >with what somebody has read and relayed. Of course you've us all a service by >bringing to our attention the list of side effects. Another important >point of view is the response from somebody who thinks it a load of >claptrap or a heap of codswallop or whatever! (Perhaps he'll eventually cite some literature too!) >So . . . no need to apologize - unless to intend to deprive us of such >important information in the future. Then we'd be disappointed. > >Now, Spiro Agnew - may he REST IN PEACE - has at least left us with a >legacy of a silent majority out here in Etherland who not doubt think >you've used the Net and this Listserv for just what was intended. And are >too busy with stuff which prevents them from writing like I do! So, my >friend, you just keep on writing whenever the spirit moves you. And thank >you again for your VALUABLE contributions. > > > > >David Robert Austen >________________ > > >On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Dianne wrote: > >> I can't believe the reaction I'm getting, when my only intent was to share >> what I'd read on Selegiline. I gave you the name of the book, etc. so you >> could know my reference and in no way was I trying to SCARE anyone, just >> give info, as I previously stated! I realize ALL the even remotely possible >> side effects must be listed to avoid law suits, etc. In no way did I infer >> that everyone taking this would experience all the side effects, for >> heaven's sake. That's like most other Rx, etc. If you feel this is truly >> baloney, you might want to tell your doctor to throw away his PDR, as most >> generally it also lists every possible side effect as well, as do the >> printouts the pharmacists receive w/meds. I'm sorry you feel this way. In >> consulting this same book (as well as Worst Pills/Best Pills by Public >> Citizen's Health Research Group) for many other medications, including >> corticosteroids, anti-malarial, NSAIDS, etc. for friends with Lupus, cfs, >> fm, and M.S., I found many many side effects and wondered if this was >> possible, but now have read on the Lupus forum all the comments from people >> who have been using them, some for a short time, some for years, and am now >> convinced these side effects are for real. Feel so bad for those who are >> feeling these side effects; unfortunately many organs of the body are >> affected further down the road, as attested by these Lupus victims, now many >> of whom are losing or have lost kidney function, their hair, are >> experiencing muscle weakness, osteoporosis, and/or have gained excessive >> weight, etc. etc. >> I was merely trying to be of help..I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I myself >> was on a heart medication for 2-1/2 years & I didn't feel any side effects >> from it and it was doing the job..but as the cardiologist agreed to what The >> Pill Book said, odds were that down the road a few years, it would cause me >> kidney problems. That's when I began to research & found a drug alternative >> called CoQ10, which after numerous double-blind studies for years, has shown >> no adverse side effects. It works great and I'm very thankful a friend >> pointed me in that direction. >> I truly wish you all well and I hope you don't experience ANY adverse side >> effects from any meds. >> >> >> At 01:12 PM 9/26/96 -0400, you wrote: >> >Hurray for attack language that is tasteful, humorous and . . . well >> >let's see what happens next . . .! :-) thanks to: >> > >> >On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, bernardo klainberg wrote: >> > >> >> Dear Dianne; your list is in my opinion, the biggest bunch of baloney >> >> ever seen in a medical board. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >